• dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I never will understand how somebody gets into any facet of medicine (e.g. nurse, doctor, pharmacist) and find it okay to deny anybody healthcare solely based on how the person lives. Like dude, there are better ways to make money and be a bigot at the same time. Insurance CEO comes to mind. Cannon fodder as well.

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      Because nursing school will shove you through even if you should fail and it’s an affordable 2 year degree that pays. And that’s how I ended up explaining what the P in HIPAA stands for and how to operate a mask. White trash nurses are a meme.

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      What if the patient is a health care CEO who is known for denying health care to others?

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        Definitely treat them. Really enthusiastically. And let everyone else in the building, perhaps people whose inaurance is fucking them, know what room it’s in. Obviously stay on hand to make sure nobody gets any mortal injuries. Bill it extra for every part of that. Do not let your patient die. Dying us bad; think of everything left in the world for your patient to do!

        This is a happy fantasy. I wish doctors were this cool.

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    The absolute gall they have to call it a “lifestyle” like people choose to live that way one day

    It’s not a fucking lifestyle, LGBTQ+ people just are and they exist

    They don’t choose to suddenly be that way one day, they have been that way their entire life and discover that about themselves

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      "Ah, but they choose to act on it! You see, my old preacher struggled with gay thoughts all the time because of Satan. He told us so nearly every Sunday. But did he act on them? No! He was straight, just as god intended.

      So those people having gay thoughts are CHOOSING to be gay when they could pray and get a wife and have children like the lord said."

      -Some dipshit I know

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        “He resisted his homosexual urges, and remained faithful to his heterosexual wife until the very day he shot himself.”

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          I act on all the homosexual urges I have. They just happen to be zero. If you have homosexual urges it’s likely because you’re gay. I’m not really sure why this concept is so hard especially for the ultra religious….

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            Or they’re bi. I grew up ultra religious and the choice explanation made more sense to me because I had both homo and hetero urges, and I assumed it was the same for everyone (I thought of people who claimed otherwise as self-righteous). In my mind at the time homosexual urges were just part of people’s sinful nature they had to overcome. The whole thing only seems so incoherent from an outside perspective, which I was fortunately able to arrive at after experiencing the world more.

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              Yeah I bet that was confusing. Being brought up that homosexuality was a choice and you had feelings for both would have been difficult at best, especially before you had a chance to really see how it all worked.

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          Something like this is what encouraged my wife’s conservative grandmother to reconsider her thoughts on the topic. She heard about a gay teen who committed suicide and asked “if it was a choice, why wouldn’t they just choose not to be gay instead of killing themselves?”

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            “if it was a choice, why wouldn’t they just choose not to be gay instead of killing themselves?”

            Props to gramma. A lot of conservative people honestly just would dismiss it with the backwards logic; “so stupid of them to kill themselves when they could’ve just chosen not to be gay”.

            I’m unsure whether they actually believe it themselves, though.

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        No this is literally it though. They think being gay is a choice because they’re repressed, and constantly feel tempted. They assume everyone feels that, and only gay people give in.

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          I have said for a long time that the number of bisexual people must be huge. All of these right-wingers seem to be equally attracted to men and women, so they’re obviously bi and choosing to ignore part of their own sexuality.

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          M137 understood what I meant.

          I believe that people are born with the same primitive instincts as everyone else, (survive and reproduce) but they gradually begin to develop their own feelings and sense of being. Some natural, some by trauma, etc, overcoming the expectations of your parents being the biggest hurdle.

          I’m just simply saying that people aren’t born knowing they’re a part of that community until they’ve come to a realization or a spark.

          Just my opinion. Just how I observed a family member and his experiences. Sadly, no one accepted him and he’s gone now. But I read his journals about how he felt, came to being, etc afterwards. Just wanted to understand.

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    Excellent. And they can take the pharmacists who have “personal or religious beliefs” and get rid of them too. No one should need to ask some other citizen’s personal permission for a service I contracted with my own doctor and medical company.

    There are even some drug store cashiers that will refuse to sell condoms. Americans need to learn that if it doesnt affect you personally, its not their place to pretend they are a stakeholder in anyone else’s life. Stay in your effing lane, American healthcare workers. No one cares what you dont like or what your personal sky-fairy tells you. Last I heard “freedom of religion” was actually more “freedom from the tyranny of religion” when it was implemented by the nations founders.

    While they are at it, Americans should stay out of other peoples bedrooms too. If they arent part of the situation, they don’t get a vote. As long as its consensual between two adult humans, its no one elses business what they do in there. <eagle cry of freedom right here>

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    Doctors and nurses see and take care of a lot of disgusting people, or people in disgusting states in all walks of the life. Them being LGBT should be the last hill for them to die on. Only shows how sheltered they have lived.

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    What I always find funny about this is, back when I used to do IT, if I refused to do something for someone who had bible verses on their office wall or a cross necklace I would be the one fired.

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    Someone being LGBT doesn’t mean McDonald’s is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?

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      Someone being LGBT doesn’t mean McDonald’s is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership.

      Patience, patience … the GOP is working on this as well.

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    I mean, this is correct. You take the oath, you have to live up to it. You will be treating people you don’t agree with, and you have to square up with that, or your rep will take a dive.

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    I have doctors/technicians in the family.

    And… WTF.

    Do the students know the horrific, gruesome, batshit crazy stuff doctors have to witness and deal with? Not just like objects stuck in orifices, but mentally ill and abusive patients, deathly contagious ones, slow motion tragedy, stuff oozing out of the body you wouldn’t believe. Criminal patients, criminal bosses and companies, drama with staff, corporate drama, other fucked up or abusive doctors, drug abuse (from the staff), plenty of sex scandals…

    …And their thought is: “Patients that want to rub their genitals on the same sex? Eww. I refuse to deal with that, even professionally.”

    Wut?

    Let’s play devil’s advocate and say the bigotry is somehow justified (when it’s not). Still, how does that even work? Like, an anti-vaxx nurse I know makes at least some sense, by comparison.

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      Apparently in Tennessee it is now legal for doctors there to simply not treat people they don’t agree with their “lifestyle”.

      Couldn’t pay me enough to live in a red state. Might as well move to a third world country for how backwards they all are.

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    This would never fly in today’s era. Nor should it.

    But about two decades ago I dated a gastroenterologist… I think she had around 13 years of schooling.

    Anyways, her first day of med school, they made the entire class watch gay porn. Like vicious, graphic, excessively graphic gay porn.

    With of course the professor saying if this makes you uncomfortable, you’d best find a new track. Because you ain’t going to make it, this is going to be your life: assholes, boils, pus, cancer, shit, piss, if you’re going to be a gastroenterologist you’re going to have your head up people’s asses your whole career…

    Etc