• HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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    Religion is a mental illness. Not adjacent, similar to, nearby, but full-on delusion.

    And also by far the greatest threat humanity is facing.

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      …leads to dangerous behaviours, feelings of invincibility, superiority, delusions…and worst of all: it’s contagious and spreads through speech and culture.

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    The “end times” have been coming for 2,000 years now. You’d think after the first 500 or so they would have started reevaluating their prophecies… But religion is a helluva drug.

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    I love running into these people. Hell isn’t scriptural and it’s easy to bring the receipts. They are cultists, so you won’t change their mind, but they will never forget you or how you knew their fake religion better than they did. I always hope that a seed planted in their diseased minds eventually sprouts, but it’s still fun to give them a solid intellectual wallop.

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      I grew up in it, and I love when someone realizes that I know more about their bullshit religion than they do.

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      Hell is scriptural, according to the scriptures…

      Unless you’re referring to the name “Hell” of course, which is not in the Bible.

      A place of burning and suffering for all time? Definitely scriptural. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, where the worm dyeth not.

      I’m not a Christian, but I do have years upon years upon years upon years of Bible studies.

      Bring those receipts! The garbage dump explanation will not suffice (Gehenna)

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        There is no god. Also, no devil. No heaven, no hell, no angels, no demons.

        You can also have years of flat Earth studies, and every other religion that will claim anything as well.

        It’s you who have to provide the receipts.

        Can your god regrow a single fingertip? Deflect a single .22LR round? Just by 0.5mm?

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          You misunderstand, it’s not my God, I don’t have one at the moment, but I am accepting applications.

          My “receipts” are their claims, collected in the King James Bible (one of many interpretations; not even a complete collection of claims really). I’m able to show what they claim to be true, not the actual truth itself.

          I was responding to someone who said they had receipts for their claims (that Hell isn’t scriptural), why would I need to provide any? My receipt is the KJV, which is scriptural.

          I’m not making the assertion, friend, but I am responding to an assertion.

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    People who believe in prophesied apocalyptic events should not be in positions of power, because they have a tendency to try to make those prophesies self-fulfilling.

    We need separation of church and state, but we also need ways to establish an expectation that religious institutions will at least not promote beliefs that directly go against established science and reason.

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      Agreed. Now how do we go about achieving that when a good chunk of the country thinks not Christian=evil Christian killer?

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        I think that things like this can really only be approached with a long view in mind. Progressions and regressions are always happening. We’re going through a rather massive regression currently, but any belief system that refuses to change according to actual facts is basically at war with reality itself, and doomed to failure by their own inability to adapt.

        As far as an actual approach, it should be social allelopathy. There’s a good reason this christofascist regime is so bent on attacking education - it’s because their crazy beliefs have a tendency to dissolve under any scrutiny. The more we can provide robust, truthful education to all, the more it buffers people, if not necessarily to atheism, at least to religion that can coexist with common sense.

        And that goes for religious institutions to. Support what you believe. If you’re atheist, there are groups who organize around that.

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    This is part of JD Vance and Peter Thiel’s theological beliefs. They’re “Rad Trads” - as is Steve Bannon. A radical group of extremist Catholics who are trying to destroy the world as they believe only if there’s an apocalypse will Jesus return.

    They should be treated as Religious Extremists, and terrorists, and everyone including the Pope should vocally condemn them.

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      I wonder if they are actually believers. Or if they just recognize how to perpetuate and foment belief in the public.

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        JD (Vance is not his real name) is an admitted liar so I would not believe a word he says. The truth is fungible according to his agenda as he as said.

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          Yea, it occurs to me that Thiel is doing these talks, and making them private, and managing to keep them from leaking, to make them mythic/mysterious.

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        He is going to hell because he is a greedy money hoarder/billionaire. If he gave away all his money to the poor and devoted his life to the works of Christ (Beatitudes-serving the poor, clothing the naked, feeding the hungry, welcoming the stranger, comforting the imprisoned, caring for the sick) he might have a chance.

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    My dad is (was?) one of these. The dissonance was one of the reasons I rejected religion - their Bible tells them to be good stewards, but when asked why he supports stuff that harms the environment my dad’s excuse was that the world was ending soon and only those who didn’t get raptured would even be impacted by it.

    I checked, the Bible doesn’t contain some “shit on the environment if the world is ending soon” clause or exception.

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      That’s the thing about the Bible, it says whatever the Christian wants it to say for any given situation and doesn’t need to be self consistent

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        Their book tells them that humans have dominion over all other forms of life on the planet so good luck with that

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    Really have to wonder why these people can’t just you know go find a compound somewhere and make some special Kool-Aid or something. Why do they got to drag the rest of us into it?

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      The way the religion is presented to them ties it very purposefully with actual history which, for many of them, gives it all the authenticity needed to believe the crazy shit.

      That fact is important because it’s also why they won’t leave us alone, they think the entirety of mankinds existence revolves around these end times ideas and indeed their beliefs REQUIRE there to be non-believers that suffer for rejecting it.

      It’s really dumb and upsetting

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      Those were revolutionary communists. The left.

      These christian folks are the right. They prefer to murder brown people than kill themselves to bring about awareness to class struggle.

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        It’s not that simple, a substantial amount of Christians are “left”.

        Jonestown is the most infamous example.

        In short, Christian preachers will gladly take ANYONE’S money, regardless of their political persuasion.

        Why not? It’s tax free!