I’m a woman and will leave the seat up at work (not at home)
We have unisex toilets and truck drivers use them - they regularly wee all over the toilet seats if left down :(
we just leave it down at home. we talked about it one day and everyone with male excretory parts just wants to get off their feet. only time the seat lifts is for cleaning.
I’ve thought of this so many times. I’m fact, I’ve thought about a spring-loaded seat hinge that raises the seat unless there’s a person upon it. If the seat is always up, it is much less likely to be urinated upon. It takes the work completely out of the hands of the user.
if there is a lid - always down
if there is no lid - always up
it is the safest, cleanest, fairest option
Toilet seats are fully operational by anyone, (it’s true I checked). How about instead of trying to police everyone you just put it up or down yourself and stfu?
Seeing this sign would ensure I go out of my way to leave it up.
Manchild take
I’m a gentleman and so I lowered the seat as my hosts requested. But I also took a picture because it’s funny and weirdly presumptuous.
Thats a spicy take. You know the seat being down is more than convenience, right? It’s extremely unhygienic to flush an open toilet let alone the dangers of small children falling in. I recognize a public space is less likely to have a child small enough and unattended to worry significantly about.
We live in a society and all that. Personal responsibility only works if you err on the side of caution. If there is a default setting to a toilet seat and cover it would be down and closed. Otherwise, why put one on at all.
The seat is not what closes a toilet. That’s the lid and it’s not even mentioned on the sign.
up. down makes me uncomfortable. Schrodinger’s toilet seat.
Did you know this isn’t a discussion at all in most of the world? People do whatever and no one is bothered by it. I only ever see this in American media.
It’s not a discussion I’ve ever seen Americans have IRL, only in sitcoms.
I always put it down.
Because women love to pick fights over the smallest things./s
I close it entirely. That way everyone has to open the lid.
Chaotic neutral spotted
Number 1 Number 2 ♂ up down ♀ down down 3/4 of these are down, so it seems to me like the etiquette should be to leave it down.
(Conflict of interest disclaimer: am a woman.)
Pooping is what unites us
Peeing while seated unites us
It seems like at least half of men can’t aim anyway, so it’s better to just sit down.
Even when aim is there, splashing occurs. It really shows that some men never had to clean their own bathrooms.
Also fuck you if you piss standing up in a stall when there’s pissoirs outside.
You want privacy for your little weenie, sit your ass down and scroll on your phone like normal people do.
Especially the ones who don’t have to clean the bathroom
Pooping with the seat up unites us
Ever tried pooping while standing? All I’m saying is don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it.
Pooping in the shower unites us
The squat toilet is for pooping what the urinal is for wee. If you have really baggy trousers and are freeballing you don’t even need to undo your belt.
While standing?
Not from a janitor
The life aquatic leads to many powers trousered society would deem unnatural
Can people do what they need to do without anybody policing them? Seat up or down who cares?
As a guy please leave it up, when I need to poop I really don’t want to sit on a seat with pee splatter all over. If it’s really unisex I think most women rather put it down than sit on a wet toiletseat.
Why does it matter how it’s left when you’re done? All that matters is lifting it when you pee.
Well yeah, but way too many lazy guys just pee.
Okay, that’s gross. It wouldn’t even occur to me to not lift the seat first.
It really helps to explain all the folks who’re fans of sink peeing, when you think about it.
I have a 5 year old kid that only wants to pee standing but (despite me telling him not to) he never lifts the seat. Unfortunately some guys never seem to grow beyond 5 years old…
Not according to everybody aggressively commenting here!
Soft close toilet seats should be standard equipment.
Then putting the lid down is a matter of a single light push.
Invent a new urinal and demand everyone use a shewee-like thing (for aim purposes). Now everyone can enjoy the satisfaction of peeing standing up and we can get rid of all gendered restrooms.
Now what, maga?
theres also realistic ones for trans men, but I don’t wanna risk getting in trouble
Put the seat and the lid down before flushing.
I just put the lid down but I still leave the seat up when flushing.
That’s a weird loo. :)
There’s a University of Cork study showing that putting the lid down aerosolises more material so spreads bacteria etc. over the whole room, whereas having the lid open produces a smaller number of larger droplets that nearly all just fall straight back into the toilet. The lid is not sealing the toilet and preventing the need to clean the bathroom.
I think I did not understand your comment. Isn’t it the other way around?
No it’s not.
My comment was explicitly pointing out that closing the lid can have the opposite of the intuitive effect and make things worse even though you’d expect it to make them better. It seems that I misrepresented the study’s findings, though, as while closing the lid does make particles remain airborne for much longer, so my overall point is sound, closing the lid does reduce the number of particles that initially become airborne.
closing the lid does reduce the number of particles that initially become airborne.
Significantly – 30-50%.
So to be clear: close the lid
That’s not the conclusion the study’s authors drew. The particles being airborne for longer means they can float further and contaminate things further away from the toilet, and also are more likely to end up inhaled. That could be a bigger problem than the number of particles initially released, so the study didn’t make a recommendation of whether the lid should be up or down. More research is required before anyone should be issuing definitive commands in bold to strangers on the internet.
Can you link that study please?
I can’t get the full text, but https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/acmi/10.1099/acmi.fis2019.po0192 has the abstract. It looks like I misremembered its findings (or remembered an article that oversimplified them), though - having the lid down does something to the released particles to make more of them stay airborne for much longer, but it does reduce the number that escape, like you’d expect.
If this was a male-only bathroom I’d still totally agree with the content of the sign.
If you want to pee standing, use the urinal. I, as a man, don’t enjoy sitting in some other person’s pee either.
Is peeing standing up something I’m just too intersex to understand? Like even before bottom surgery it was just more easy and convenient to sit down for it
You’re not using the equipment to its full potential!
How is having to pull your pants and underwear down and sit down easier and more convenient than just unzipping your fly and peeing standing up?
I mean if you’re at a urinal that’s one thing but if you’re going into a stall you’re already wasting time might as well sit down and take a break, maybe take a smoke while you’re at it
If you feel like sitting down, that makes sense, but it’s not easier and more convenient.
So, like, peeing into a toilet with the seat down, 100% keeps those tiny little splashes from hitting the tops my bare feet at home. So, when I pee in public toilets, I keep the seat down, to keep the urine off my shoes. I do wipe the seat if I miss, and I also spray if there is disinfectant. But I hear the smart girls squat atop the seat anyway.
Really, places where you don’t have a urinal are sub optimal.
What kind of PSI are you working with?
No idea. I suppose you could estimate with a water hose outlet of similar diameter, put a psi gauge on it, and adjust pressure until the stream travels an appropriate distance, but who cares.
Sounds like factory default to me.
Biased how. Do the math. Half of us sit down to pee, all of us sit down to shit.
*most of us sit to shit. Given a large enough population I won’t rule out the possibility.
thank you for your consideration. i shit everywhere
Found the diaper-wearer.
no but a good guess
Lol
Also, as someone with male plumbing, we can also sit down to pee. So everyone can sit to pee, and half of us can’t.
Especially with the men that complain about how hard it is to control the stream, might as well sit down.
But then they won’t get to complain about how hard it is to lift the seat
not to well actually, but once you figure out a female urinal they are kinda nice. according to my mother who spent all last week texting me every time she used one on her hiking trip
The little sleeve thingy? My wife tried to use one but didn’t try it at home first. There was no bathroom/pit toilet out there either. They tried but couldn’t do it. It took me a bit to realize but once you make the connection that literally their entire life they have never had to pee standing up it makes sense that their body is just like nope can’t do it. They ended up holding onto a tree and squatting while I kept watching for critters/moral support. It was dark out and spooky.
That night I think a raccoon sniffed around our tent which was cool.
That’s a thing?
anyone can pee standing up it’s the 21st century
I’m not sure I wanna see that proliferate. My trans ass could never
Biased meaning only men have to do any work, women never have to (if it’s left down always)
True neutral would be last used position.
It’s also easier to slam it down, than bend and lift it up.
And peeing is more frequent when there aren’t urinals.
So everytime a pissstander arrives to a raised seat, it’s a saving of efforts
But of course, this avoid the worst problem of all.
Having to remember to do one extra thing after you’re done and ready to leave
That last one is probably THE biggest asshle of the entire discussion.
