• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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      6 months ago

      Specifically pretend-progressive idiots, for whom progess is great when it’s for their approved groups.

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        Idk, I never would have learned about all the “nuances” within the far right about this issue if not for what happened to Charlie Kirk. It’s not just a pretend-progressive idiot thing. Idiots across the political spectrum have done some very interesting mental gymnastics over this conflict.

        Charlie Kirk made some clearly antisemitic statements during his career, but he also fully supported Israel in this conflict. That is fucking dumb, but also sounds pretty on point considering Trump supports Israel in this conflict, yet refused to admonish his neo nazi supporters who were caught on camera during rallies doing sieg heils before his first term. Or his supports that marched with torches chanting “Jews will not replace us.” Not to mention some dude on Ketamine who hopped on stage during his second inauguration to do a few more sieg heils just to really rub it in.

        Apparently the shooter was a fan of Nick Fuentes. Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk bc he believed he was “too moderate” in his far right views. Ok…

        Nick Fuentes is apparently a Holocaust denier and has called for the death of jews in a holy war. He is very upfront and honest about his antisemitism. I guess this makes Fuentes the kind of guy Jerry Seinfeld apparently prefers as opposed to anyone who might otherwise just simply disagree with him about Palestine.

        Nick Fuentes also called Charlie Kirk a hypocrite for claiming to be a Christian while supporting genocide and murder of hundreds of people on a daily basis.

        I can’t argue with him on that particular statement. However, it also seems just a bit hypocritical to be an antisemite calling for the death of jews, while claiming to worship a jew who sacrificed himself for the sins of the world, and only asked in return that you love your God as the creator of all things and love your neighbor as yourself.

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          I always found weird the position some far right people take that

          1. The Nazis didn’t genocide the Jews
          2. The Jews should be genocided

          Why bother defending 1 if you believe 2?

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            Probably bc if you claim 1 didn’t really happen, it makes it a lot easier to downplay all the steps that had to happen to reach 2. That way when somebody calls you out for starting down that same road again, you can claim they’re trying to make a big deal out of nothing. Once it’s just normal for one group to be treated as if they’re deserving of less than any other human, nothing is really a big deal.

            It’s not like one day there was no genocide, everything was peachy, then suddenly 6 million people were gone. It was a long road that began with normalizing attitudes, then legalizing discrimination, and eventually stripping away an entire group’s perceived humanity along with their rights.

            I know some people claim they believe empathy is a made up new age concept, but it’s actually a tool humans have relied on for millions of years, even before they had a name for it. It’s that part of you that says this feels wrong. That feeling should drive you to act, or at least say something because you can recognize how it would feel if it was happening to me instead of them.

            It’s can be ignored, but it’s what’s supposed to keep this from happening over and over again, unless individuals within a broader dominant group are allowed to normalize the idea that we’re us and that other group is them, so just ignore that feeling. Eventually this normalizes the narrative they are a danger to us. Inevitably it becomes anyone who doesn’t see that we had no other choice but to do what we did, just doesn’t understand or is refusing to acknowledge what they are really like. They’re not like us. Except in all the ways that they are.

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      But the infestation is bad, so widespread. It’s like moving your fridge and there are thousands of roaches under it.

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    “Just say you hate Jews. Just tie me up and say Jews should die. Spank me and call me an evil little Jew. You know you want to.”

    “Mr Seinfeld, children are starving.”

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    “By saying ‘Free Palestine,’ you’re not admitting what you really think,” said Seinfeld, who publicly embraces his Jewish heritage and has pushed back against critics of Israel.

    “Just say you don’t like Jews,” he said in reference to the movement, before comparing its supporters to members of the KKK.

    In that spirit, Jerry, maybe you should say what YOU really think. You’re a genocide apologist. Embrace it, instead of putting words in other peoples mouths.

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      Nah, just have him say what he thinks about Palestinians and muslims. The rest follows.

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      Calling critics of a state and a polity racists is some high level bullshit

      Did you criticise the Nazis? Pretty sure that means you hate all modern day Germans /s

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    Jerry Seinfeld has always been a pompous piece of shit. Fuck him and his unfunny horsefaced “comedy”.

    Oh, and he fucked a teenager at the height of his show. Release the files.

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      This is the truth. Once he got money, he turned into the asshole he was always wanted to be and oh, what an asshole he’s blossomed into.

      Now he’s added piece of shit who likes genocide AND is entirely brain damaged about what the KKK does and has done.

      Pretty solid work to show that you’re a piece of shit, like murder and have zero clue about the KKK all in one go.

      If this country is going up in flames, can we put the boomers on the front line? They love to talk a big game, let them live up to their own hype.

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      Yeah you can, just remember Larry David and the other writers who actually made it good.

      Edit: and the cast! So many iconic performances.

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      Because some people are jerks who don’t want better people to enjoy life. Especially out of touch billionaires like Seinfeld.

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    Does he have any respect left?

    Honestly…like…who still thinks Jerry Seinfeld is a good person? Jerry Springer is a better person.

    Who’d think that George would be the most respectable of the group 30 years later.

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          Yeah that’s the last I’d heard as well. Michael Richards and Seinfeld can go eat a bag of dicks but as far as JLD and Jason Alexander they’re fine AFAIK

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            Even Jerry’s dentist ended up becoming a meth kingpin, and his mailman was involved in a corporate espionage scheme that ended up killing a bunch of people.

            What’s the worst thing Jason Alexander did? Let his kid sneak an orangutan into a 5-star hotel? Big deal.

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        Well, she was a billionaire before the show even started. She’s an heiress to a massive family fortune.

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      Weirdly, it is actually true that both the KKK and Hamas have bought support in their communities by doing good public works for people. It’s not what they are best known for, but I don’t think shadow organizations survive for long without building some support somehow.

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        their “shadow support” that you can’t figure out is hate. Usually hate from religion. KKK are ALL christians, and use their religion to justify their hate. Hamas are ALL muslims, and use their religion to justify their hate. Israelis are ALL jews, and use their religion to justify their hate.

        Religions openly hate each other. They all have lived under the motto: There can only be one god(s), only one of us can be right. (even though some lie about that, too). They fight religious wars that last for thousands of years, and that’s how they look at you. A pawn so small that you can’t ever fit into a 1/10th of their next thousand year plan.

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          We didn’t need two paragraphs to tell us religion has been divisive throughout history. However let’s not oversimplify. The black people terrorized by the KKK were also Christians. Fateh were also Muslims so Hamas didn’t steal their popular support just by being the right religion. Religion is a thing. Not the one and only thing going on.

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          That damn people’s front of Judea! Bunch of mindless zealots. Not like us in the Judea’s Peoples front!

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    Why do they keep trying to fuzz the terminology?

    Zionists and Jews are not the same thing. They have very little in common.

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      Because they’re dishonest; unfortunately, it’s very effective in shutting down public conversations about what’s happening over there.

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    Queue clip of Jimmy gervais, telling all of those Hollywood idiots to take their little Grammy and stfu because they know nothing about the real world.

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    Jerry Seinfeld is a washed up comedian, who cares what his opinions on international geopolitics is???

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    Not really related but I’m having the weirdest time because I got on FB for the first time in a decade, and learned an old friend has transitioned and looks to be much happier now, so I’m excited, but their feed is FULL of zionist propaganda and it appears her entire identity is wrapped up in this now, so accepting her request would be a time bomb. Fuck, why everything gotta be this way now.

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      Let me make it simple; You genocide, you lose. So cut off communication if you wish, but first attempt to reason

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      People contain a multitude of thoughts and opinions. But, it always surprised me how one group that is persecuted can’t empathize with others experiencing persecutions too.