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I’d rather be who I am than let all this bullshit force me to play dumb. I earned my ability to speak (somewhat) intelligently, and I’m not going to let the AI bros discredit that effort. I, for one, refuse to contribute to the Idiocracy outcome the control freaks want.
For me it depends on the context. I love words, and it’s a mathematical fact that there are more long words than short ones, and I love using all of them. But, I also love communicating with people, and if I can use a word that most people know instead of a word most people don’t know and it works well enough, I prefer to simplify. I have a tendency to indulge my own vocabulary and I think consciously minding it makes me a better communicator.
There’s some fine nuance to finding that balance, though. If the word I want to use is less well-known, but better fits what I’m trying to say (or is significantly shorter than “going the long way around”), then I’m more likely to use it. I think most everybody should strive to communicate as clearly as possible, and that may entail learning the occasional new word. Intentionally “talking down” can be insulting, as well as a step towards Idiocracy if we all start doing it together.
I get that it’s appropriate in certain situations, or for certain audiences, but I try to stretch my brain to keep it learning (and therefore more sharp), and I hope most others strive to better their communication skills as well. IMHO it’s necessary both to succeed, and to evolve.
Yeah, I think of it kind of like protocol negotiation. If I speak a technical protocol my conversation partner doesn’t, my options are either to get them using my protocol, I switch to a common protocol, or we don’t speak. Sometimes, if the topic is important enough, the first and third options are preferable. Other times, particularly in casual conversation, I opt for the second one. I still try to be precise, and that can mean an occasional specialty word and accompanying definition, but it’s costly to the conversation and if I’m not careful I can get bogged down in explaining minutia instead of getting to my point. Maybe it’s more like treating new concepts economically rather than treating jargon as a discrete protocol, though I tend to think of jargons as protocols, you can kind of add them into a common protocol a la carte. They’re just computationally expensive for people absorbing them if they’re also trying to follow a conversational thread at the same time, and too many can blow the budget and cause people to tap out, so I try to add only the ones I really need.
Interesting analogy. Basically, yeah - you’ve got to tailor how you speak to the specific topic, participants, and goals you have for what you’re trying to convey. There’s no overriding universal truth, and adaptability certainly makes for a good communicator.
Paragraphs help. Please, for the sanity of your readers use paragraphs (appropriately).
I’ve gotten critiques that I write in walls of text, occasionally, but that just looks like a single normally-sized paragraph to me. Maybe I’m just old. I am using a desktop browser on a 4k monitor, so maybe that has something to do with it. Just eyeballing it it looks like several mobile screens worth of text, maybe it should be broken up for mobile viewers. I guess there’s a paragraph break for the last two sentences… but it’s seven sentences total. Is that too much for one paragraph?
I measure what should constitute a paragraph by what I’m talking about. If I move on to another point that’s not directly part of the point I’ve been talking about — even though they’re likely directly related — I tend to start a new paragraph to make it easier to follow along with what I’m talking about, as well as make it easier to tell one point from another.
I just, I comma splice so bad, no one can mistake it for AI, I just can’t help myself. I think my ADHD, or something, leads to it, and other grammar issues that I’ve just never shaken.
Well for what it’s worth…super ADHD here and I absolutely do this too.
But what the fuck? Aren’t we supposed to use them as we would use pauses in speech? Did somebody teach me wrong or am I hallucinating that memory.
- This thought brought to you by super ADHD
I’ve come to the conclusion that speech to text has played a significant role in the disappearance of commas. When things are written via speech to text, it almost never had any commas unless they say “comma”, and almost no one ever does. From there, I guess people just get used to not seeing commas, and even when they’re typing, commas don’t cross their mind.
It’s a pretty big pet peeve of mine, and I find it super frustrating to text with people who frequently used speech to text.
I mean, that’s totally valid, for most of us, anyway
It’s alright, Mr. Walken. We don’t think any less of you for it.
Mr Walken, boldly going where, no man, has gone before.
(In my head I’m hearing Walken give a Shatner impersonation)
I have a degree in English language and I’m an editor. I refuse to type like a moron.
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Meanwhile, I never even knew what an em-dash was until I started reading about AI. I always just used hyphens in the same way. Now I use em-dashes and everybody thinks I’m AI – oh the ironing.
The thing with em dashes is that most keyboards I’m aware of don’t have dedicated em dash keys, and most text input on the web won’t parse a double hyphen into an em dash the way word processors do. Ironically, Lemmy’s markdown parser does exactly that. – —. I suspect it’s based on or connected with Pandoc’s markdown parser, since how you enter collapsable spoiler blocks is identical to Pandoc’s div block notation
::: spoiler some text Hello world :::some text
hello world
Reminds of the SG1 episode where the super advanced aliens turn to humanity for help against a constantly adapting AI scourge because humans are skilled at solving problems in unpredictably stupid but effective ways.
Asgardians needed humans to think of a stupid plan because they were too smart to.
And it was so stupid, it worked.
And don’t forget the ability to propel small lumps of metal real fast instead of energy based weaponry. Our advanced rock throwing was half of what they needed
Popular LLM overeliance reminds me of the one episode with that society of people who are all linked to the centralized computer core. The Link™ serves as their instant knowledge database, so they lose the ability to actually remember anything or really think for themselves. And if the Link decides to change something in the database, the people are unaware anything changed. As far as they are aware, the current information in the Link at any given time has always been the truth. If someone who does not use the Link tries to point out that something in the Link is not true or has changed, users of the Link vehemently insist that they must be mistaken, and that the Link is infallible.
Stargate SG-1 S7E5 “Revisions”
Yeah, that one is more like AI these days. People’s memories are about to flop because they just sling AI slop, like “oh, did I even submit that?”
I fix comments even if edited comments are looked upon less favourably. I refuse to use autocorrect so I suffer the consequences of that choice while using a touchscreen keyboard. I just felt one day I might be damaging my literacy skills relying on autocorrect.
Unfortunately that’s combined with a weed habit so I also have a bad habit of editing in stuff I didn’t think about* (see it just happened again) until 3 minutes later. You can probably track when I’m high with strings of edited comments all in a row 😅
Editing one’s grammar and spelling mistakes doesn’t just prove your humanity—it also proves your humanity! It’s a great way to prove that you’re alive, that you’re human, and third clause I need for this bullshit joke that I can’t think of at this moment. You should definitely continue to make spelling and grammar mistakes to come off as more human, while I try to emulate the style of ChatGPT in order to lose all self-respect.
You are going out of your way to use a lowercåse i aren’'t you.
Maybe
That’s one of the reasons I swear all the fucking time. That and I just have a potty mouth I don’t bother censoring when I’m anonymous.
That said, autocorrect fucks me over often enough, if I could wire in an LLM to poke me on the shoulder when I say something completely unintelligible, I would. But as long as I have to copy and paste my shit, that’s too much work, so I’ll proofread after I hit post as god intended.
We must keep these strategies to ourselves! The bots will adapt.
I think English will change in a way that being “wrong” will be part of the language itself.
AI can learn a language, but can’t learn the unpredictability of communities shaped by memes. AI for example doesn’t know memes, because requires processes unable to be emulated via pure logic.
Yeah I do the same. Plus I’m prone to a double space which auto capitalizes the next Letter. So now I just delete the period and keep the capital letter. So people know I’m real.
I use Android voice-to-text a lot of the time, and it capitalizes the stupidest shit. It errs on the side of assuming something is referring to popular media and capitalizes based on that. Lots of random capitalization happens as a result.
Even worse? It will often get what I said correctly and then “correct” it to something incorrect.
It also almost never chooses the correct version of they’re there, you’re your, it’s its, to two too, etc.
Not so intelligent. It was better before the last big update, which was probably like two years ago at this point. I was so upset about that update.
I always thought I must have a weird voice or something because the text to speech has also never worked well for me. I was playing No Man’s Sky game. Multiplayer game. and talking to another player. And it has an auto voice to text thing that displays on the screen. I guess so people can participate in the conversation via typing. I know they also had tried to make a universal translator for players. Which was not working great last time i tried it.
But it’s been a few years
ANYWAY
Chat was happening in a place where multiple other players were able to see or join the conversation.
This time I was verbally chatting with some guy about mission steps and it was showing me saying the weirdest shit and it read like I was hitting on him. It wasn’t even close to what I was actually saying.
I pointed it out mid convo like. “Dude did you see what the text is showing I said?”
We had a laugh about it but honestly it was a bit awkward though I knew the guy well enough we could laugh it off. Other people reading it (you can only listen in if you are connected with a mic) probably were thinking I was trying to hook up with this dude.
Im a woman player so the last thing I want is to make it look like I’m chatting up male players and open for business. 🤦
I’ve just never got it to work for me. And I’m deeply untrusting of it for causing me problems.
I swear I talk normal with minimum accent. Idk.
I don’t know if this is related, but I have noticed that my home assistant fairly regularly does not hear or understand me accurately, but it will understand my husband saying the same thing at around the same volume. Then, if I say the same thing again in a fake “man voice”, it will understand me. I wonder if they’re all trained on deeper voices.
You know what. I bet you are on to something.
Students upload what they have written themselves, complete with grammar and spelling mistakes, and then let AI write their other work like that. So I’m sorry. No proof anymore.
I participate in class and speak with the same voice that I write in. I feel like the chance of my prof suspecting me of using AI is really low because of this. For other classes that this doesn’t work, I wrote an OBS plugin to capture a timelapse of my screen while I work. Any proctored stuff I do in person.
Any issues, I’m prepared to take it to supreme court metaphorically speaking. The burden of proof is on the accuser. I have the ability to be extremely persuasive when I care deeply so they will either see things my way or regret it.
Fuck AI and fuck any professor using the shadow of AI to keep me away from the education the university is charging me for. I’m willing to work together on these things but if you accuse me of cheating when I’m not, you will LOSE!
Bad news: clankers occasionally throw in a typo or two as well. Can’t tell you whether that’s intentional or because the (human made) training data includes typos but there it is.
I understand what you’re saying, but I’ve never heard that use of the word “clankers” before. Is this a thing now?
It’s a slur, basically, for AI that pretends to speak like a human. In the Star Wars franchise, people who don’t like droids call them that.
And what happens when someone thinks you’re an AI?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Either they ignore you or at worst they falsely accuse you of something you know not to be true, so I genuinely don’t see why you should care. This seems completely pointless to me. Yet another example of the ways we try to please people who don’t need to be pleased. I’d much rather just have them publicly make a fool of themselves so I can block them and move on.
Responding with nothing but a link in a thread about not putting in any effort into one’s responses… What ever point you’re trying to convey there is lost in the irony.
I thought mistakes were considered symptoms (and therefore proof) of “AI slop”.
Absolutely not.
No. In my experience AI is great at stringing words together. If you look at individual sentences, they’ll sound perfectly reasonable, but the next sentence or paragraph won’t quite line up with the ones around it.
The dreaded em dash is probably the stereotypical tell you’re dealing with an AI. No keyboard I’m aware of has a way of inputting it natively, and most text entry forms on the web won’t automatically parse a double hyphen (--) into one, which is frequently how word processors do it. Ironically I literally just found out by previewing this post that Lemmy’s markdown parser does do exactly that. I think uses or is related to Pandoc, given the syntax for collapsed spoiler blocks is identical to Pandoc’s div syntax.
Here’s an example of a Reddit comment likely generated by an AI. Another tell is that it will hallucinate things that the OP never said. It talks about legal claims, for example, but the OP never mentions the language in question carrying legal weight.
