Jab brought ‘unprecedentedly strong responses’ in patients whose disease had become resistant to chemotherapy and immunotherapy
In an international trial spanning 11 countries, the injection was offered to patients whose cancer had spread or come back and whose disease had failed to respond to other treatments.
In the trial, 102 patients with head and neck cancer, the world’s sixth most common cancer, were given the jab. Tumours shrank or disappeared completely in 43 patients, including 28 whose tumours shrank significantly and 15 who saw them eradicated entirely.
This sounds great, and I’m happy for those who had good results.
But what happened to the other 102-43-28-15 = 16 patients? Because if they all spontaneously combusted after taking the treatment, that might change how you view things…
I think the numbers are worse. The 43 includes those with tumors that shrank or disappeared. In otherwords: 43 (shrank and disappeared) = 28 (shrank) + 15 (disappeared).
So what happened to the other 102 - 43 = 59? Still it’s roughly 40% chance of improvement when other treatment methods have failed, which I think a lot of people would be willing to take. I’m often skeptical about early results though.
Yeah, the positi e results suggest it’s worth the risk, but they don’t say anything about the neutral or negative results.
It might be 40% chance of improvement and.60% chance of death from side-effects
this here - the 43 is is the total.
How much is the jab? If you have United Healthcare, you are not getting jack shit.
Best we can do is “the stab” it’s like the jab but much more painful. Oh and it doesn’t have medicine in it.
The cheaper option is a free “poke” behind a “dumpster” and there definitely is something in that injection.
But what if there’s not a Wendy’s in my town?
But it relieves all symptoms within minutes. Terms and conditions may apply.
Handguns kill cancer
I wish the media would stop calling a shot a “jab”. Ever since COVID everyone calls any kinda shot a “jab”.
The UK has always called it a jab and headlines are optimized for length. This sentiment is just US defaultism.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/feb/04/why-do-we-call-vaccinations-jabs
The medical sense of “jab”, meanwhile, has a rather less salubrious origin, as a 1914 dictionary of criminal slang introduces it: “Jab, current amongst morphine and cocaine fiends. A hypodermic injection.”
NYP’s equivalent is The Sun.
It’s the Guardian. The New York Post of the UK.
Not even close. The Guardian is way better and the only English (as in England) news source that is independent. It’s extremely good.
The Guardian is still a better in most regards. However, I think their quality of journalism is gradually declining over the years.
I thought that was the daily mail
No the daily mail is the toilet paper analog in the UK
Cancer jab where jabs grow on jabbys
I guess we can’t expect better than “the jab” from “the guardian.”
Test subjects were administered Amivantamab.
England has referred to vaccines as jabs long before it started to be used as a pejorative.
I remember reading somewhere that (especially) Russian disinformation campaigns learned British English. They, pretending to be American anti-vaxxers, spread it to the dialect of the dumbest Americans.
‘Jab’ is basically a case study in skipped localization.
Nobody is confusing which meaning they meant.
Use of the word to mean vaccine is just reductive and awfully informal.
it doesn’t mean vaccine, it just means an injection of any kind - at least in the UK
But this drug is not a vaccine.
If you do not understand the difference between a monoclonal antibody and a vaccine, fuck off down voters.
The medical sense of “jab”, meanwhile, has a rather less salubrious origin, as a 1914 dictionary of criminal slang introduces it: “Jab, current amongst morphine and cocaine fiends. A hypodermic injection.”
—https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/feb/04/why-do-we-call-vaccinations-jabs
OOTL: what’s wrong with jab?
It’s just awfully informal and reductive for something life-saving and sophisticated.
Imagine a paramedic saves your life and you call them a meatsack.
I would most likely have said they were shocking someone, rather than administering defibrillation, though both are just round about ways of saying they were turning someone’s heart off and on again.
The fact they administered what I consider a mind blowing treatment by way of jab just goes to show what amazing things humans can do.
I’ve only heard it in the context of antivaxxers. Apparently it goes back further in the UK, but that’s when it broke containment.
All the antivax bullshit started from the piece of shit grifter doctor Andrew Wakefield back in the 90s in the UK.
Well, the guy who kinda caused the modern anti vac movement is an UK export, might be that.
My parents fucked to have me.
Vs:
My parents had sex to have me.
Or even:
my parents were on the bed doggy style, when my mom was on hands and knees on the bed while my dad was behind here thrusting his huge penis into her very tight vagina over and over. She loved every second of it and so did he. They loved eachother very much and entrusted eachother enough to allow this raw behaviour into their bedroom each night of every day. As the penis reached climax, it injected billions upon billions of spermatozoids into her vaginal cavity. Each sperm only had one goal… Swim, swim! If the egg is encountered then go into it to inject the DNA that would become me. All but one would encounter they demise.
Yes, they say as much in the article
Just checked the wikipedia page. This compound is only specific for certain types of tumors (epidermal growth factor receptor, EGFR, exon 20 insertion mutations.)
I was afraid this could be all fake. But not, is just clickbaity reporting.
Cancer is over 300 different diseases. Some are curable, others are not, some drugs works wonders for some types of cancer and do nothing for others.
Anytime you read “cure for cancer” it will be clickbait bullshit, what the Guardian is famous for.
Woah, this is HUGE. That’s so cool! Good things are still happening! Woo!
This just in, the Trump administration has banned this medication.
“Cancer is nurgles gift” or something
Cant wait for the antivaxxers do backflips over this
Isnt it anti jabbers now
Some movies like “I Am Legend” have this as their plot, where it does not end well, so they are already prepared.
I think it’s a zombie book called Feed where the zombie apocalypse is brought about by two generically engineered cures, one for the common cold and the other for cancer. The upshot is that there’s no more common cold and there’s no more cancer, but there is a zombie apocalypse so that’s a bit of a downside.
So long as Will Smith is in it - surely nothing can be bad in a situation as long as he is involved? (/s btw 🤪)
It’s not a vaccine.
I hope whomever patents it gives it away.
Johnson and Johnson, so… Not likely.
If they don’t, it still won’t stop India from flooding the market with the generic versions.
Pharma is not about curing people it‘s about constant medication. Otherwise the profits are less.
Sure, which is why pharma doesn’t make antibiotics? Right?
Do we have a cancer cure vaccine despite all those findings in the past 20 years? Where are all those wonder cures? Probably in some drawer.
There were the cures that worked in theory but did not work in actual cells. There were the cures that worked on mice but did not work on humans. There were the cures that cure cancer but have a higher fatality rate than the cancer. Those cases cover just about every cancer “cure” you read about in the news.
Then there are all the cures that work for some people some of the time. Big pharma has patented them and is selling them for enough money to cover all of the other cures that did not work (and give everyone a very nice bonus).
Seriously, if some phara company could cure cancer, why wouldn’t they? They can sell it for 100k per treatment, make enough money for each of the 10 biggest investors to buy a small country, and then close up shop.
I assume that the article is supposed to support the point I was making? Most of it is talking about how big pharma invents new medicines and then sells that at a very large profit, which harms people in poor countries who are more likely to need treatments for diseases like HIV but have the hardest time paying for them.
its a biologic medication, the suffix ending with -mab always is associated with biologic. if you have psoriasis they use these kinds to treat them, or an autoimmune disease.
MAB Monoclonal antibody
Weird that the headline and snippet implies that it supplants immunotherapy, when it sounds like an immunotherapy.
Guardian has no clue on medical articles.
“Now get back to work.”
Beats dying
If you’re in decent health
Or have a government that ensures the health and welfare of its populace.
Not really. Death means eternal oblivion, living means struggling and misery.
This isn’t so much a jab as an upper cut
Shoooryuken!!
Can we please stop saying “jab”?
It’s been a standard Britishism for a century.
Bring me da Wookie!
Jabba jabba nipple ringy.
But what about all the people who have died from cancer‽‽‽ Is their sacrifice in vain?
/s of course
There’s such an insane percentage of people that this is real life for.
This might surprise you, but if there was a magic drug to cure all cancer, for free, it would make a difference of 36 months to average lifespans.
Every moment is valuable
Its not a tooma! Get to the choppa!
Uraaaaghhlll!
