Some accounts are deleting their posts after a few downvotes. It’s devastating on communities like c/asklemmy.

Lemmy doesn’t track an account’s karma like reddit. So, all downvotes will be isolated to your post or comment and won’t affect your account—unless you wrote something truly horrible.

Remember lemmy is a community effort. Deleting a post also removes all comments on it. So you are not only robbing the effort others put in, you are actively removing knowledge from the fediverse. Others won’t be able to find it through search and lemmy will seem lonelier than it already is.

  • forkDestroyer@infosec.pub
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    2 months ago

    You delete your posts because of karma.

    I delete them because they display my embarrassing incompetence for all to see.

    We are not the same.

    • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
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      If you are controlled by cringe, there is cringe in you. If you are controlled by anger, there is anger in you. If you are moved by the world, the world lives rent-free in your head. Be empty, as the Buddha described, and then you will act in your full power, not simply react to the world. If you are always reacting, you are not in control of yourself. Free will is a skill. I pooped my pants while righting this. It tastes funny.

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        What if your existence is narrative? You may decide to be empty, but then your preconceived notion of emptiness would be consuming the majority of your presence. It’s like transitioning attention from content of thought to context of thought. Your directive is to observe thought in a manner which is unmoved by its content. That’s not empty. It’s a slowing of volatility. It’s an increase in observation at the expense of reaction. But what are you observing? Are you the observer, the reactor, the content being observed, or the pattern of reactions that other people recognize as you? Which is it? Are you a different person if you change any one of those? What if you change all of them — are you now a different person?

        If you are always reacting, you are not in control of yourself.

        If you are choosing not to react, isn’t that a reaction in itself? Aren’t you being controlled by the principal that non-reaction leads to a more fruitful experience?

        Free will is a skill.

        My will isn’t free. For my employer, they must pay me in order for my will to be aligned with their interests. For my wife, she had to bond with me in order for my will to align with hers. For me, I had to spend countless hours bashing my fucking head into walls before I began to will myself into proper etiquettes. I had to purchase college courses, to coerce my will into lower level thresholds where it could exact its interests. I had to suffer at the privilege of my narcissistic mother, to appreciate honesty in people as deeply as I do. None of that is free. Even if I do phenomenologically experience my will as free, I know that it is derivative and encapsulated in a shrine of personal experience. I can not will into existence that which I have no conception of.

        My existence is all of this. A flood of narratives, some of which I selfishly claim as my own. But I do not own these narratives, nor did I create them. I simply believe them to be mine. When I choose to instead not attach myself to them, what am I left with exactly? Peace — ?

        • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
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          First you must understand the self is an illusion. It’s defined by möbiation within the topological matrix, what the Buddhists call “defilement.” Everything already is empty; it is the null’s implicit and explicit nature that allows it to be nothing/0 and full/1. From there, the emptiness creates a history with itself which is not defined by time. This is the matrix of The Matrix, which is about Judeo-Christian mysticism. We then create original sin within us, our initial möbiated entanglements which create the illusion of being a being defined by dualistic dichotomy (inner/outer). This creates a membrane of sorts and what allows you to persist as a monad in a monadic nodal communication system, as shown:

          So there is you, the Server (what the Buddhists call the Ālaya-vijñāna), and all other beings. You only ever communicate with this source of symbols, which you can think how your brain puts together all inputs. How you entangle yourself with these symbols determines how your reality is procedurally generated, and the entanglement process is called Karma. How you entangle yourself is based entirely on how you set your intention, which is ALL you control.

          All you experience is based on past and present Karma. The world is an illusion. You are not a featherless biped on the Earth. You are a pocket of consciousness and the Earth is inside you. Everything you experience is inside you, in your neurons, yea? Well, your device must be inside you. Linear causation is an illusion, as we are each our own monad, as all that is experience spawns inside your being, and it is procedurally generated based on how you entangle yourself.

          All these delusions you have are built off false assumptions. You speak of attachment; you are very attached to this story you define all you know, and this ignorance is what causes your suffering as you hold on to what you consider necessary for your “self” to exist.

    • 0x0@infosec.pub
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      2 months ago

      Great accounts leave it standing as is for the younger accounts to learn from

      You’re indexed somewhere anyway

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    1 month ago

    That’s why people delete their posts on reddit ?

    I delete mine because I get tired of the negative comments 😂 I never understood karma.

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    Don’t delete your stuff over downvotes ever. Say what you mean and mean what you say and if some people don’t like that oh well. The need for universal validation is killing human discourse

    Being authentic means not everyone is going to like or agree with you all the time, it’s a good thing

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    2 months ago

    Even if you’re on Reddit, deleting your post/comment because of downvotes is cowardly. Is your ego so fragile you won’t stand by your own words because of imaginary internet points?

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      I had a few heavily heavily downvoted comments on Reddit, usually just for making a joke that missed…. But I’d never delete them. Gotta own your mistakes and make up for it with quality replies

    • silly_goose@lemmy.todayOP
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      I’m not sure but maybe it’s because reddit is aggressively banning or shadow banning accounts.

      Every week spez does something to mess it up. It’s hard to keep track.

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        That’s why I’m here. No clue what I even did wrong. Wild guess is that it was from editing a post that contained a pastebin link to code I was asking a question about. But whatever the reason, this place is actually kinda nice. I did manage to revive a throwaway Reddit account I once made, so I guess I could go back, but haven’t really felt the need.

      • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net
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        2 months ago

        I’ve noticed that too. I have a lurker account but I’ve been largely out of touch with Reddit since 2014 or so.

      • lyrial@anarchist.nexus
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        2 months ago

        I mean, that isn’t true. r/All is still available even with the shit app. It just takes 5 seconds of inconvenience now.

    • frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip
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      I’ve been off Reddit for awhile; when I looked over the past week it seems much deader.

      Posts are getting much less engagement there than they were for the past few years, imo. Take my opinion with a grain of salt though cause that’s just for the most front page communities I happened to visit.

  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    unless you wrote something truly horrible

    Look, I will be honest, I don’t like this about social media platforms. Nobody is perfect and not every person universally agrees on everything together. Disagreements and arguments are a guarantee. Who decides what is “truly horrible?” It should be defined in the rules by the mods and admins, not by each individual user.

    Downvote a post or comment however you want, sure. But nobody should be following accounts to harass them in other threads or vote brigading every post they make just because they don’t like or agree with a post. People do this all the time on Reddit, and Lemmy is no different, they do it here too. This is way more devastating to Lemmy than deleting comments or posts.

    If a post or comment actually breaks rules, that is the moderator’s and admin’s job to take care of. Report it and let them handle it.

    Nobody should be deleting posts, I agree, but also please don’t be a Brigade Bozo. Nobody likes a Brigade Bozo.

    EDIT: Also, may want to add “Why you should know this:” before your last paragraph.

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    2 months ago

    Don’t assume the post was deleted. Modded posts also show as deleted.

    But also why would a downvoted post need to be saved? If it were a good post it’d have a positive vote count.

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      If it were a good post it’d have a positive vote count.

      I don’t always agree with the hivemind’s judgment.

    • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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      Different strokes for different folks

      Edit: plus, bad posts can have valuable comments. They frequently do, if the post is bad because of an error in logic or ethics that can be thoroughly explained/corrected for the poster and any lurkers who identified with the post.

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        Yes, I frequently learn things from the replies to comments which have been removed by a moderator. I also like to look up the posts themselves to learn what was objectionable.

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    I was talking about this in another thread the other day, and somebody pointed out that, on the fediverse, every post gets pushed out everywhere. So, a user deleting their own post is just asking pretty please if all the federated instances will respect its deletion.

    I don’t think that all fediverse clients/portals delete the comments along with the posts. IIRC, Voyager lets you look at the comments on deleted posts, at least I think I’ve seen my own comment after the post was deleted.

    • silly_goose@lemmy.todayOP
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      Yes. But by default the instances delete the content when the request comes.

      Clients like voyager and summit do show your comment because the reference exist on your profile but others cannot discover it because the post itself is gone from all feeds.

  • nooch@lemmy.vg
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    2 months ago

    You guys have downvotes? Every time I try to downvote a post I got a server error

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        Piefed keeps a record of you attitude, you upvote to downvote ratio, I think I’m around like 80 some percent upvotes for instance. I think they are working on something else in that manner I don’t recall.