• TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    30 days ago

    I think what people want is longer-life, user replaceable batteries. They didn’t need to be thinner. Apple says, “Look! It’s thinner! Thinner is better!”, so the fanbois say “Look mine is better because it’s thinner, Apple said so!”

  • 🇨🇦 tunetardis@piefed.ca
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    30 days ago

    I have no problem with functional protuberances. In fact, I wouldn’t mind seeing more, such as a universal mounting connector of some sort? I don’t know if I am atypical in this regard, but I like mounting my phone on things. Handlebars, car dashes, tripods, mic stands, etc. There are solutions for this, but they invariably involve something wrapping around and blocking some of the front side of the phone, which has become increasingly problematic over the years with screens pushing towards the edges. My bike holder sometimes blocks the front-facing camera needed to unlock the iPhone, for example. But if there were something on the back side that a mounting bracket could securely latch onto, none of this would be a problem.

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      30 days ago

      SP connect and quadlock offer mounting brackets, that get glued to the back of your phone (or phone case) check on their websites under “universal”

      • 🇨🇦 tunetardis@piefed.ca
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        30 days ago

        That’s interesting. It’s basically what I’m thinking phones should just have by design. Something that can twist-lock it into place. I guess the question with this after market solution is whether you trust that adhesive enough? It would be better if it were just built into the phone, but it’s nice to have some affirmation that my ideas are not totally baseless and that others have been looking into it. Thanks!

  • captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org
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    30 days ago

    It’s a hand ergonomics thing. People with smaller hands who still want a larger screen have an easier time holding the phone body if it’s thin. The camera bump is outside of the handholding area so stuffing the big circuitry there lets you make a better hand experience.

  • Tilgare@lemmy.world
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    30 days ago

    It’s really funny to me that we’re having these conversations all over again. I had the Moto Z back in 2016 and it was almost half a mm thinner than the 2025 iPhone Air. (As always, here’s Apple still playing catchup, a decade later this time.)

    I honestly didn’t mind it - the Moto Z had a Moto Mods battery that snapped on the back (in a MUCH more elegant manner than Apple’s magsafe battery implementation in my opinion) and so I always knew that was an option if the battery life became a concern over time. And I loved that the extended battery made the back of the phone perfectly flush with the camera bump too, so if you elected to add battery life, it was literally what we’ve all asked for the whole time: Just make it thicker and add battery. But if you didn’t need extended battery life, then you had a razer thin phone (and a camera bump), probably the thinnest I had until the Fold7 at 4.2mm.

    I wish that Motorola’s solution had stuck, because they solved this problem already, meanwhile everybody is here reinventing the wheel over and over again in 2025. 🤦

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    30 days ago

    I would prefer it if there was a raised lip around the lenses - like you get when you put a case on. That protects (to a degree) the lens of the hideously expensive camera phone you just bought.

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    30 days ago

    I recently had cause to use my phone as a clinometer to measure the gradient of a path at various points. Camera bumps made the task take twice as long as it otherwise would have, because I had to record it camera forward, then camera backward, and average the two, just to negate the effect it has on how the phone sits…

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        29 days ago

        Uhm IIRC typical battery is 2000 mAh/day, so one week battery is 14 Ah/day, which is 50 Wh assuming 3.7 V.

        A typical sodium ion battery (which i very much like btw) typically holds 0.2 kWh/kg, so 200 Wh/kg, so to store 50 Wh, you’d need around 250g of battery.

        For reference, i think smartphones should be about as heavy as an apple (fruit) which is 100g average. And the battery makes most of that weight (like, 80%). So the battery could be about 80g, which would store 16 Wh of energy. That would make about 4000 mAh. Which is what many phones today already have. Which lasts for 1-2 days.

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      29 days ago

      I had an Oukitel that I ran for almost 4 weeks. Had to charge it for a trip off grid. Talk about chunky!

      Might buy another model, but had to drop Verizon to get it working and T-Mobile took a week to figure out how to activate it. PITA, but it was solid once working. Great BT speaker, couldn’t kill the battery, everything worked great. Carrying the thing was a pain, even with a pack. Not sure I want all that mass again.

      If you want a phone you can beat a man to death with, Oukitel it is!

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    29 days ago

    just give me a battery i don’t have to tend to every fucking day or two. everyone just slaps a fat case in these flimsy ass phones anyway.

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    30 days ago

    Well, you cannot cheat physics. You get two of resolution, depth, and thin-ness. If they want resolution and depth, they need the optics to do this.

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    30 days ago

    I can understand people wanting “smaller" screens cause they don’t have huge hands/pockets

    But slimmer phones when the cheapest ones (< 200€) already are like 8mm, I don’t really get it, at this point it’s just a structural weakness, like the geth would say

    The only advantage would be to have a bulky phone case while still maintaining a 6 or 8 mm width, but still it wouldn’t prevent your phone from bending

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      29 days ago

      You clearly have not watched Zack’s YT on this. The big ones bend and break way sooner. It’s not even close.

      My guess, what we are witnessing here with the Air is just a stepping stone to a foldable. As a standalone I’m with you, it’s the inferior phone. Just not because of the structural weaknesses - it’s not weak at all - but due to smaller battery, less cameras and less speakers.

      Oh, and case less gang checking in.

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      29 days ago

      I was recently messing around with an iPod touch 5th gen, with dimensions 4.86 inches (123.4 mm) in height, 2.31 inches (58.6 mm) in width, and 0.24 inches (6.1 mm) in depth. It weighs approximately 3.10 ounces (88 grams). It felt fantastic in the hand and I want a phone that size now.

      I was near an Apple store a few days ago and tried out the iPhone air, it was honestly really nice in the hand. I wouldn’t buy one, but seeing in person, I kinda get it.

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    28 days ago

    This is why you spend much money for name brand phone protector!

    Not to make phone tough…

    …but so…

    … it can sit level on flat surface!

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    28 days ago

    Why do phones have to be as slimmed down as a coke addicted supermodel from the 90s anyway?

    I’d much prefer they shrink the fucking things enough that they fit in your pocket.