In what universe is Charlie Kirk at all comparable to MLK?
Release the rest of the Epstein files. Release the Yahoo emails. Why is there a drawing of Epstein grooming children allegedly at Mar a Lago?
Releasing the files was one of Charlie last wishes.
Let’s go down the list:
- They were both shot and killed.
That’s the list.
Someone probably equates the political nature and him being white to what happened to MLK Jr.
In what universe is Charlie Kirk at all comparable to MLK?
They’re both famous guys who were in the news for things they said.
Release the rest of the Epstein files.
Didn’t we get a big data dump that journalists are actively sifting through? FFS, the UK ambassador to the US just got sacked yesterday over the latest news.
At least take a minute to chew and swallow before you ask for another bite.
They’re both famous guys who were in the news for things they said.
Come on, dude, you that’s dishonest. Were Gandhi and Hitler the same person?
They’re both famous guys who were in the news for things they said.
Your history teachers failed you.
I would be very surprised if Charlie Kirk has been included in anyone’s history book to date.
If your understanding of why there are any statues of MLK boils down to “he was a famous guy who said stuff and then got shot,” your history teachers have failed you. And if that’s not your understanding, then it’s a terribly dismissive way to describe one of the greatest social traumas for Americans in the 20th century.
If your understanding of why there are any statues of MLK boils down to “he was a famous guy who said stuff and then got shot,” your history teachers have failed you.
If we want to get down to the nut of it, he was an icon of a large and very successful social movement who was cut down in his prime by his political opponents.
But that does technically also qualify for Kirk. Also, for any number of Confederate General statues we’d thrown up across the nation in the wake of Jim Crow. Statues don’t go to the “Good Guys”, they go to the people whose movements have the wealth and the influence to build them.
If your history teacher hasn’t conveyed that message, you might need to ask her why we’ve got Andrew Jackson’s face on our money and a pedophile carved into Mt Rushmore. Monuments and statues aren’t handed out objectively. They are propaganda works erected by the wealthy and powerful to venerate historical icons. Very real possibility we end up tearing down the MLK memorial under our current President in order to clear a space for these goons, sycophants, and freaks.
One was fighting for a better world, one for a worse one.
One of them deserves a statue, the other one not so much.
I just hope that those who want to have a statue of that hateful, spiteful, horrible person get what they deserve.One of them deserves a statue
Statues don’t get built based on who deserves one the most.
a pedophile carved into Mt Rushmore.
Wait, I know trump was SAYING he was going to put his face on…but I never heard news that he DID it!
Sadly, not the first pedophile President
So you want a statue of a pedophile-defender, Kirk?
??? Reading comprehension and critical analysis abilities?
My city already has its fair share of Confederate generals and reactionary land barons littering our parks and museums. He would certainly fit in.
And yet it’s the only common link between the two.
There is a big difference between. Most people who aren’t actively engaged in this type of discourse like you and I, or don’t pay meticulous attention to conservative media outlets, likely don’t know who Kirk is, let alone care.
MLK Jr. got historically important exposure on television with the broadcast of the March on Washington, D.C. This was one of the first civil rights events to be televised. When you have a new medium to disseminate news that for the first time gives you not just the voice but the image of the people involved, I think that has a huge impact. Prior to this, MLK Jr. was a highly respected religious leader.
Most people today, would probably have to seek out non-governmental sides of political discourse, to even know who Kirk is. I have no doubt your average conservative that watches Fox News has been exposed to Kirk, but they likely won’t recall any talking points. He wasn’t in an elected office. Today, that would probably be the only reason any lay person would listen to them.
Most people who aren’t actively engaged in this type of discourse like you and I, or don’t pay meticulous attention to conservative media outlets, likely don’t know who Kirk is, let alone care.
Kirk’s had his face plastered all over the news, his voice jammed into podcasts and radio shows, and his physical form injected into college campuses for over fifteen years running. You don’t need to be an academic to know who he is, any more than you needed to be a wrestling fan to know Dwayne Johnson or a pop music obsessive to recognize Taylor Swift.
I have no doubt your average conservative that watches Fox News has been exposed to Kirk
That’s tens of millions of people. And then you’ve got the average liberal who watches MSNBC or tunes in to Colbert’s Late Night. They can spot him, too. And then - again - anyone on a major college campus over the last fifteen years knows this guy purely because of his reputation as National Debate-Me Bro. The man did the college circuit hundreds of times. He’s been a popular meme for at least a decade. He died running his mouth at a C-list university in Utah, ffs. That’s how prolific the man was.
I would gamble that more people could recognize Charlie Kirk on sight than any of the last three Vice Presidents.
Mandelson was sacked because of the release of the birthday book by Epstein’s estate, not by the government. The government did a “release” before that, but it looks like just a couple per cent was anything new. When people call for info to be released, they’re probably most likely asking the government that’s supposedly working for the people, not the paedo king’s estate.
The assumption is perhaps that the estate has zero interest in releasing stuff damaging to themselves, while the government theoretically should be different.
Theoretically is the operative word here, at least for me. The government is staffed by the paedo king’s associates, and they are never releasing anything. So there’s never going to be anything released worth chewing and swallowing.
But it is entertaining to watch Trump not be in control of the narrative and squirm
Mandelson was sacked because of the release of the birthday book by Epstein’s estate, not by the government.
What? He’s an ambassador. Of course he was sacked by the government.
They’re referring to the US government, not the UK one.
We got a Google Drive dump of data after thousands of fbi agents spent months redacting trumps name
Point to the redaction.
Hey siri,
Find me the name of the woman Trump bought from Epstein.
No see she was sold to Prince Andrew.
Silly bot. I want the woman who was sold to Trump. $22,500 in the book of burthday letters.No see she was sold to Prince Andrew.
Virginia Giuffre’s family expresses shock over Trump saying Epstein ‘stole’ her
He isn’t and everyone knows it. It’s what used to be trolling except it has now become a core principle and they are a full two or three generations into believing their own bullshit. It’s like that guy who loves banter until you hit him with a slapper and it’s a “he’s gonna fight you in the parking lot” kind of situation but he called security and told them threats had been made and the cops are getting involved but it’s ok because a few days later he got stabbed 7 times in Lovejoy NY for talking shit in a pool game and all was right with the world.
Sorry I got lost on that one but you get the point.
Do you mind explaining? I checked out of politics because of a mental breakdown. I’m sure you all understand. Who’s Kirk?
Charlie Kirk, the late fascist founder of turning point USA, a fascist propaganda organization.
They want to add a gender neutral bathroom? I thought they hated those.
This is the martyr they wanted for whatever reason to finally roll out their next phase. He’ll be used to lock up/kill anyone that says anything negative about the administration. They’re treating this nazi like he was jesus fucking christ.
Umm, they were already kind of doing that
We’re going 120 mph into fascism and then Charlie is killed and they go “now you’ve done it! This is a turning point!!” and increase the speed to 130 mph.
Dealing with conservatives is an endless sequence of “this is common sense, but how does that relate to Trumpers?”
This is a turning point!!
Some might even say it’s a Turning Point USA!
::Dons sunglasses with one hand to an opening song from The Who::
Really working hard to distract from what the senate did yesterday being a shield for a pedophile
What has Charlie Kirk actually accomplished, though? Besides spreading hatred and bigotry, that is?
He’s like the anti-MLK. Everything he stood for is the worst that conservatism has to offer.
You have a statue of MLK because he deserved it.
You should not get a statue for Kirk for the same reason that there is no statue of Joseph Göbbels in Berlin.
Remember kids, fascists need a martyr & will happily make their own if needed.
Wow is that the original? I think we’re on volume 50 right now
An edit with a little vol.50 would be epic lol
How about a statue for all the kids murdered by your insane gun policy?
They’ll need to use an electron gun to carve the face on the regular sized head if they want to make the scale accurate.
