I’ve spent years championing Linux as the only escape from Big Tech, but I’m starting to get twitchy.
While we’re distracted by the Steam Deck making Linux “mainstream,” the corporate players and politicians are busy building a digital cage. Between California’s AB-1043 mandates and Microsoft’s “Face Check” infrastructure, I’m worried we’re heading for a hard schism: “Sanitised Linux” vs the “Free Rebel” distros.
If the compliant, age-gated version becomes the industry standard, where does that leave the rest of us? Digital exile?
I’ve put some thoughts together on why the “Golden Cage” is closing in and why education, not mandates, is the only real fix.
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This is a very importrant thing to keep in mind. Liberalism is exceptional at appropriation and assimilation, and there is already a tremendous amount of corporate influence on the trajectory of Linux development. Since the open source nature of Linux is fairly robust, this would mean that control would look a lot like accessibility and feature competition (think how Android has effectively muscled out alternative ‘open source’ mobile OS’s and functions as one of the most expansive data collection systems in the world). It likely would not be as immediate as this suggests, for exactly the same reason Linux is so preferable to proprietary operating systems, but examples like Zorin’s successful marketing campaign and paid services do point to a trajectory of corporatization separate from what exists in Redhat and Ubuntu.
As liberal states seek more power over information and computing, they will direct regulations into favourable conditions for capitalization, as they always do, and will reward corporations that comply. The big threat is the amount of resources that private capital wields with state support and how this may pressure independent developers to comply as well.
It sucks but at the end of the day, it’s not illegal to post code. The code without the nonsense can be seperate from the released system. So if they fuck everyone with age verification and all this other Orwellian crap, you just get the distro “in development” that does not have it integrated yet. Wink wink.
Oh, no it wouldnt be like “we’re mandating this through legislation,” because that is typically really hard to defend. They’re more likely to simply provide subsidies or some sort of financial benefit to larger, more compliant entities.
I think the “trap” is to believe “we” can “win” once and for all.
Under capitalism (and I’m not suggesting there are better systems, only highlight a core mechanism) there will always be competition to capture value, both customers and lawmakers who (should) protect them.
There are countless examples but one of the most obvious on that topic if Microsoft itself with it’s sadly now classic EEE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish of which we can admire the comtemporary version with Github. Initially Github was acquired and no changed, nowadays a lot of basic functionalities, e.g. search within a repository are locked behind a login, there are more and more advertisements for Microsoft other products, e.g. CoPilot. That last product itself is questioning the foundation of free software and open source with its license washing process making unclear who did what, breaking provenance, etc.
The same happened with Google acquiring Android but not locking it down more and more.
The list could grow longer and longer, overall the point is to showcase a pattern : nothing is just “let” alone to grow on its own. It’s gradually captured and enshittified until there is nothing left but the name of a project because corporations exist only to extract more money. There is no moral, only an imperative for profit or their death.
So… unfortunately we WILL have to keep on both building AND protecting what’s been built so far with newer and more powerful threats. Microsoft, Google, and all large corporations who advertise themselves as allies of free software and open source MUST be judge on what they actually do, not on what they claim.
We have to push back and we will always have to. This year and the next.
How the fuck is Linux a trap compared to the shenanigans of Microsoft?
Microsoft and other proprietary vendors are the trap, and Linux is the way to avoid it.I agree with you, that’s exactly what my post says.
Microsoft is the trap. My point is that “Sanitised Linux” is just Microsoft-style shenanigans being forced onto our ecosystem via regulation. I literally started the post by saying Linux is the only sanctuary left.
OK I read it as Linux won’t cut it if we are forced to use Microsoft.
Microsoft will of course do everything possible to create that situation, as they’ve been doing very successfully since the 80’s.Linux is the only sanctuary left
Acktually there is still some Free and Open Source BSD variants. And for the lols we also have GNU Hurd. So even a world without Linux, does not mean we have to use Windows. (I don’t even count MacOS.)
bsd was originally a calfornia thing and california had made the first step to this reality; i bet big changes are coming their way.
But here’s the thing, nobody knows what operating system you choose to install. This regulation will be equally as effective as anti-pirating legislation has been, which is to say, essentially nil.
Actually, even without “tracking” individuals, the metadata is still there. I can see from my own anonymous, privacy-respecting server stats exactly how many hits are coming from Android versus GNU/Linux. There is no personal data involved, but the OS “fingerprint” is clear.
If a small, self-hosted blog can see that high-level data, then a bank or a government gateway definitely can. The comparison to anti-piracy doesn’t quite work because you don’t have to “log in” to a pirated movie, but you do have to authenticate for the services that actually matter. That’s where the compliance gate gets locked.
An operating system can lie about that though. The only reason it doesn’t is because of convention.
There is no technical reason it couldn’t look like a different OS. Try changing your user agent, it’s that simple in most cases.
User agents are just the tip of the iceberg. Between TCP/IP stack fingerprinting and modern hardware attestation (TPM/Secure Boot), pretending to be a different OS is becoming a lot harder than just changing a string in your browser settings. The ‘handshake’ I mentioned before is at a much deeper level than that.
And services can choose to only allow operating systems which don’t lie, have anti-tamper mechanisms, and authenticate themselves cryptographically. It has definitely been easy to spoof your identity in the past, but OP is talking about where we might be heading in the future. Since the laws about OS:es having to partially identify the user is so obviously useless in its current form, don’t you think the corporations and politicians who are pushing for it are going to keep expanding it when they get the opportunity?
i 100% agree with you and i’m sharing this to warn you that there are plenty in this are that will balk at the message that you’re trying to share.
don’t let them deter you; most of them are visitors from captured origins and will refuse to accept it as a result.
I agree with you. The only thing I could see “Linux being a trap” would be, for people who expect Windows replacement without the Microsoft bullshit. So in one way this “could” be interpreted as a trap for those. But that is if I try to stretch it to justify calling it a trap.
Its not really something that can be avoided other than political change. Or moving to a different country. Its not a linux problem its a facism problem.
Ive been running Linux for close to a decade now and one thing that I’ve noticed is rarely brought up in Linux circles is that Linux Kernel Development is heavily funded by major big tech corpos. Examples include Microsoft, Google, Oracle, and IBM.
There is a vested corporate interest in keeping Linux well maintained as it is the OS that underpins the vast majority of corporate server architecture and infrastructure.
I’m not saying Linux development wouldn’t exist without them, but imho, Linux certainly wouldn’t be as ubiquitous as it is today without this corporate backing. Thusly, it is worth noting that in many ways, we Linux users have not escaped corporate influence simply from switching from Windows or MacOS to Linux.
We’ve maybe lessened it to some degree, but to think we are somehow immune to the misguided mandates from state governments, like the latest recent age verification laws, is misguided.
Guess you wanna maintain your own patchset then? Because that’s what freedom takes - building on the shoulders of giants and corpos, but also scrubbing the spyware off down into the kernel.
i think linux emphasizes the advantage of being able to fork code without the bad parts in this case.
the problem is they will probably target the infrastructure our linux machines connect through, or the services themselves as we’ve already started seeing.
i’ve been interested in those decentralized long range radio networks lately, for no particular reason.
Here’s one way that liberal fascism maintains control:
- Maintain control of everything
- If control is lost, create mass hysteria about “social media”, “kids,” “addiction”, “islam”, “immigration”, whatever, etc.
- Steamroll everything.
- Regain control.
It’s how they got TikTok, etc. It’s how they’ll try to get Lemmy, Linux, VPNs, etc. The wild part is how many lib “allies” will fully support this.
Yes, it’s a trap like everything else. It’s another front in the struggle.
you are absolutely correct in what you are getting at, i just chuckled when you went like “here’s how they maintain control: they maintain control”
The floor here is made of floor
Just to underscore what you said, this is achieved in FOSS via control of non-profit orgs & a monopoly on consumer chip architecture (for the time being)
The fascists’ weakness is their extreme overconfidence in everything they do.
Yeah “will to power” isn’t real. You end up hunting for the Holy Grail and shit
TikTok was a data harvesting surveillance tool from day one. It didn’t need to be ‘got’
Even if what you claim is true(its not), isnt that a much better way of maintaining control than other systems. Because without the spin you’re basically saying the “government tries to push its population in a desired direction via light influence”.
The problem lies in direction and methods.
Direction: toward greater wealth consolidation.
Methods: fear, lies, fostering ignorance, fostering political disinterest, truth embargo, surveillance, overclassification, embezzlement and other white collar crimes unpunished, eliminating the commons, paywalling all things, etc.
Both of those are huge problems that create unlivable societies.
The only proper direction is toward a legally mandated wealth ceiling plus a wealth floor plus enforced and publicly measured and publicly tested market competition to regulate maximum allowed wealth consolidation.
And of course truth has to be the informational currency. And rights. And privacy for the small players, with heavy oversight for the large players because large is dangerous.
We can’t lose the big picture here. Of course the governments must govern, but toward what ends and with what methods matters hugely.
Can you give me an example of this happening in real life so I can understand what you mean? I dont see that at all as liberal politician thing. To me it comes off as listing a bunch of things you dont like then labeling it liberal.
Edit: Never mind just realized what instance this taking place on. No point in continuing this discussion.
That stupid Newsom age-gating OS bill is pure political theatre. It won’t affect Linux – too many capitalists would be inconvenienced, and inconveniencing capitalists is the last thing capitalist darling Newsom would do; he couldn’t even be bothered to support a modest 5% tax on billionaires.
Linux is here to stay – it runs the internet. And it will always be customizable, because that’s part of what gives it so much value.
This is why shaming the idiots who say things like “what’s the big deal, it’s just a field in a text file” is so important. They need to be made to understand that solidarity is required to resist the tyrants.
shaming the idiots
solidarity is required
Your team building tactics could use some work.
-An idiot
tbf shaming can be a good tactic, in some specific situations.
Linux becoming mainstream would be a trap too… It will lead to the enshitification of the distros as they get more and more watered down to satisfy the average dumbass using it.
There have been bloated “easy to use” distros for a long time. But the based Linux distros like Arch & Debian have stayed pretty much untouched in my opinion. And, even tough I’m using plain Arch now, I also started into Linux using EndevourOS. It’s just more convenient and not too big of a hurdle to get into the Linux universe.
… to satisfy the average dumbass using it
we all have to start somewhere
Also, some use Ubuntu, some Gentoo. There’s something for everyone.
Also, some use Ubuntu, some Gentoo. There’s something for everyone.
Yes, and we all got by fine with things the way they have mostly been. The last thing we should be advocating for is this stupid trend of removing features and calling it “user friendliness”
Give the user the ability to torch their system - it’s up to them whether they want to use things they can’t handle or not. Not up to the devs to baby-proof the software and strip abilities away from capable users.
I think if Linux becomes something for the masses it will no longer be for me. So I’m hoping that won’t happen.
End users just want their hand to be held by some kind of corporation. Happy to give up their information and privacy. To have no choices in interface etc.
Basically, Linux for the masses will look exactly like ChromeOS. Completely unusable for a power user with a need for privacy and control.
Meh it’s not like Linux is one static block of immutable code.
It’s modular.
So it’s not like all linux distros will evolve the same way. And OP points it out that some distros are affected by age verification laws while others are not at all.
So I think it makes no sense to panic and thinking all linux will converge to some Windows ersatz…
I think the fact there is so many distros out there is our strength but also what prevents people from discovering the right linux for them.
So this will be the year of linux discovery imo and all linux user should help out new users finding their way to a linux that fit them for their journey to freedom.
Not really but you do see already that Linux is becoming more opinionated. For example recently kde introduced a new display manager (to replace sddm) that requires systemd.
It’s becoming harder to get off the beaten track.
I had similar thoughts, but at the same time i honestly think that wouldn’t be an issue because of the nature of linux and it being free and open source. There’s bound to be distros out there that won’t conform to whatever bs the corpos come up with.
ChromeOS is basically the blueprint for the “Gold Cage”. My real worry is that “security” is just becoming a convenient excuse to swap user ownership for corporate control. Once that “masses” version becomes the legal standard for compliance, the rest of us are basically looking at digital exile.
The issue with Linux is going to be if there will be a single distro that dominates or if it will be more distributed. Right now, it looks like Google and Valve are the closest to making dominant distros, but I can see at least one EU government one being created as well. If there are few distros, then I can see development getting locked to those distros rather than across all Linux.
The same thing happened with Android, Google ended up controlling Android so the open source side got hollowed out and the closed source side controlled by Google became necessary to running Android.
End users just want their hand to be held by some kind of corporation.
SheepleOS
That legislation is pushed by big tech lobbies, mainly Meta. The more people use open source the less power those big companies have to push shit like this.
Also we’ve had attempts to microslopify Linux before, by the hands of Canonical and Red Hat.
Also we’ve had attempts to microslopify Linux before, by the hands of Canonical and Red Hat.
the most recent example was done by the american gov’t instead of corporations when the kernel maintainers group kicked out russian developers.
Their building a Prison System ™️ regardless, open source (e.g. Linux) just offers SOME protections.
We have to do more regardless, but it’s still all part of the good fight in my book
What people don’t realize is, that every year is the Year of Linux Desktop. We just beat the previous year. It’s like having a new world record every year.
and by a lot, if the latest 5% on steam statistic turns out to be reliable.
Year of linux?
Dude, please. I’m on my third decade of the thing already.
It’s just the buzz-word of FOSS enthusiasts.
It is a myth, always has been. But the worry isn’t the “Year of Linux” happening, it’s the corporate version of it being forced on us via regulation.
