Donald Trump on Monday, January 19 threatened 200% tariffs on French wine and champagne over France’s intentions to decline the US leader’s invitation to join his “board of peace.” The board was originally conceived to oversee the rebuilding of war-torn Gaza, but the charter does not appear to limit its role to the occupied Palestinian territory.
“I’ll put a 200% tariff on his wines and champagnes. And he’ll join. But he doesn’t have to join,” Trump said, referring to French President Emmanuel Macron. A source close to Macron told AFP on Monday that France “does not intend to answer favorably” to the invitation.
The board’s charter “goes beyond the sole framework of Gaza,” the source close to the French president said.
“Do what I say or else I’ll charge my citizens more for your stuff!”
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you can easily predict Trump’s response to anything by imagining how a spoiled rich kid would behave when he is denied a request
USA is so finished, Americans allowing this shitshow to continue is as ridiculous as the shitshow itself.
The checks and balances were never designed to manage a psychotic criminal administration. And that is still what Americans are relying on!This! 👆
He basically is allowed to do whatever he wants. And people thinking that it is a distraction from the Epstein files, don’t realize that he’d be able to walk away from anything they hold too. The problem is not Trump it’s the enablers who won’t stop him
All the smiles behind him in his inauguration are still smiling.
I have high hopes for the US population to slapping back at the midterms. Minneapolis has shown the world that ordinary people can stand up to power.
Having said that, the mayor in jaws was still the mayor in jaws 2.
The problem is not Trump it’s the enablers who won’t stop him
Exactly, and there are way to few that are willing to risk anything to try to stop him.
I just saw a video by an analyst (Anders Puck Nielsen) that dismissed the idea that Trump would invade Greenland, because he claimed Trump wouldn’t be allowed to do it.
This is a channel I very much respect for usually having very good analysis of the current situation.
But in this case, it was just so far off I was shocked. Because obviously Trump wouldn’t ask permission, and the people in the administration actually want him to do it.
And we’ve seen evidence the military is already preparing, forming the Arctic force under.
Trump has all the support he needs to do it, believing someone would stop him is ridiculous.It’s normalcy bias. Career analysts, people that have made their living predicting the next major geopolitical shift, are more vulnerable to it than your average Joe. The world has operated one way for their entire lives, and it’s very difficult for most people to see that the rules of play have completely and irrevocably shifted.
They assume that the US won’t do something this patently self-destructive because the US has (mostly) operated on a logical set of self-interested principles dressed up in the language of “Democracy” and “Freedom”. The idea that it would blow its own kneecaps off while overtly and clearly talking the language of imperialism and might makes right is so outside their experience that it’s unthinkable until the spell of normalcy bias is broken.
The mystery for me is that, how does the regime being transparent on imperialism and might makes right doesn’t wake up those people from the spell of normalcy bias?
Different people have different thresholds. I can say that in my personal experience, the majority of people in Romania have been able to rationalize everything until this point as Trump just running his mouth, but the “real powers” (Romanians in general are very conspiracy-minded) would never let him actually upset the apple cart.
Some people had the spell broken months ago, during the first round of universal tariffs. Some people saw the stories of Europeans being abducted for weeks at the border for no reason and that woke them up. Some explained all that away as a few unfortunate mistakes, not a real pattern. Then the next round of negotiations with the EU, widely considered a capitulation to the US around here put some people back to sleep (we gave him what he wanted, maybe he’ll leave us alone now).
The higher tensions get around an actual military engagement, the more worried people are getting, the more people are snapping out of it.
LBC radio host James O’Brien has been shouting from the rooftops about the worst case scenario for months, and unfortunately he’s being proven right.
Trump is a symptom of a larger completely corrupt government afraid to challenge the status quo because they are still cashing in.
Sure it was. They just didn’t know that all three branches would be filled with psychotic criminals at the same time.
Yes, that’s kind of true. The problem is not only an insane President, but also that the checks and balances are also to a large degree corrupt and insane.
Especially the supreme court.One had already been filled with psychotic criminals for a few years by 2024, and Americans voted to fill the other two that November.
I’m not allowing it. It just doesn’t do any good.
The American people as a whole is allowing it.
Yes some resist, but in total Trump and his administration is allowed to break the law over and over again. Sometimes even legalized by the supreme court.USA as a country is finished compared to what it once was, it has descended into complete sociopathy and disregard for the law and human rights, and any decency is long gone, where even legal immigrants and citizens are thrown out the country while illegal immigrants like Elon Musk and Melania Trump get a pass because they are rich. And USA as a country behaves decidedly like a mafia towards other countries and their leaders, even including long time allies.
Like it or not, if you are American you are fucking part of that, and if you aren’t actively resisting, you are contributing to the madness. And it is way way far from half the population of USA that is actively resisting. So for sure the majority of the American population is STILL enabling this shit show.
There’s a reason Americans are unpopular, not just Trump and the administration.
There are good Americans, but they are such a small minority, when a malignant narcissist which is just about the worst personality disorder that exist can be elected President with half the votes, and about 40% of the population not bothering to vote.
2 thirds of the American population either wanted Trump, or didn’t mind enough to vote against him.
That is a very clear indication that USA as a society has gone insane and has become sociopathic.
I’m not sure who you are speaking to. Which Americans - all Americans?
Tell me… For those of us who can barely afford rent, who may die if they get sick and the bill is too high, who voted against this man and march against him and ICE. What more exactly do you want from us?
Shall we expedite the process and throw ourselves on the guns of our oppressor? Because that is literally happening. People are being maimed and killed in the streets.
Some of you idiots think we’re all a short walk from a castle we can overthrow. It’s not the middle ages any longer, though… You can’t simply stop the President of America as a citizen. Especially not when you’re under attack literally (ICE) and socioeconomically.
The Idiocy and audacity of those who do not understand our situation blanketing blame on an entire people is deafening sometimes. Do better. Support the people fighting tyranny, rather than cut them down.
Say their names, you cowards. Trump. Vance. The Republicans. The GOP. This is our enemy.
Where. Are. The. Democrats?
The “opposition party” says nothing about the insane plans on Greenland. What kind of allies does Europe really have in the US?
I agree 100%. Our government has failed to uphold the standards desired by the people. The Democrats are weak and cowardly, and the Republicans are patently insane.
This said, the grand majority of the American people are against this. 75% as of the last poll I saw.
I have a family member that’s never said a single negative word against Trump in over a decade… Earlier this week they wrote to their representative to tell them they oppose action against Greenland, and told me they think Trump is crazy. I’ve not been that taken aback in years… A full MAGA nut-job turning on Trump.
As for Europe, they should absolutely not trust the United States anytime soon. This country is in open turmoil, and the government emphatically no longer reflects the will of the people.
Maybe some day a relationship can be salvaged, but this is absolutely a sign for Europe to find independence from our fascist leadership.
It’s hard to tell how much of the houses are Democrat In Name Only. There are precious few that are actually willing to stand against what’s going on; it’s not clear how many of the remainder are either on the take or just hiding until it’s safe enough to show up.
Trump was voted in by a majority of voters. After the shitshow of the first administration. It’s mind blowing how dumb one must be to believe the criminal will help you.
Americans consistently vote against Universal Healthcare. Americans consistently vote against taxing the rich, or higher minimum wage. Americans consistently vote against a quality education system for everyone. The protests are tiny and ineffective, everyone having the same excuses. There hasn’t been even talks of strikes.
I’m sure the democrats will win in the midterms and in 2028, but they will do nothing in the name of “healing” and “bipartisanship” and a new republican clown will promise chocolate streets and Americans will vote for it in 2032.
As an ally, America is done. Americans are too dumb to be trusted.
USA as a country is our enemy now, not just the GOP. USA as a country and as a society is an enemy because of the administration they collectively elected and collectively allow to continue.
But obviously Americans that oppose the system are not as much enemies, how much of a dimwit do you have to be to have to have that pointed out?Edit:
USA is de facto our (EU) enemy now, and they are an enemy of democracy and the international law based order.
Every American is part of US society, they work there, live there and have their economy and pay taxes there, and by that they are supporting the American regime even if it is unwilling, and they help funding of the USA military.
This technically goes for even people like AOC and Bernie who I politically support. if people like AOC and Bernie came to power, we would have no problem normalizing relations with USA again, at least for 4 years. Obviously things can never go back to the way they were before, they could obviously become a lot better than they are now. But we can never really trust USA again, when they have such a huge portion of their population that will vote for someone worse than a psychopath, and too thirds either support him or don’t mind having a malignant narcissist for president.So most definitely this problem is not limited to MAGA or GOP, it’s based in a mental sickness of the American society, where narcissism is seen as an expression of freedom. The US society is sick like when a person is sick with cancer. Not all cells in the body are cancerous, but enough are to make the body terminally ill. And that is how USA is today.
We can’t judge USA by the good and non crazy people in USA, because they are not in power, and they are unable to reign in the insanity that is going on.
Saying we should consider USA based on them too, would be like considering Germany during WW2 on the fact that they also had a Jewish minority. Politically and regarding how Germany behaved that was completely irrelevant. And in the same way the people that try to resist Trump are irrelevant, because they have zero impact on how USA behaves as a country.
But no I don’t judge Americans that voted against Trump, or Americans that are trying to resist. I wish more would do that. Fighting Trump is a worthy fight.
But it seems many Americans find it hard to accept that USA is now an enemy. Not Trump, not MAGA, not GOP. But USA as a country.Oh, honey… Go touch grass. We aren’t your enemy.
Do you have any semblance of an idea of what it is like to be against Trump and live in the United States right now?
Go ask Renee good’s family, you condescending ignoranus.
Go ask Renee good’s family
You are among those that allowed it to come to this. All Americans are responsible for failing to do more, as it is the entirety of American society. Although everybody is not equally responsible of course.
Countries have the governments they deserve
Especially when it’s a democracy, although USA always was a dysfunctional democracy, the people did have the power to prevent Trump.
“we are not your enemy. But if my government attacks you I won’t do anything because Washington is very far away and I have to work tomorrow”
You know who else was into collective punishment?
Where do I write I’m into collective punishment?
Right here: “USA as a country is our enemy now, not just the GOP. So in that way it is actually all Americans.”
Backpedaling later in your comment doesn’t fix this awful take.
It’s awful yes, but it’s a fact.
USA as a country is an enemy, and technically that means all Americans.
If the sane Americans can change things back to normal in USA, this would end.
But as it is, when USA as a country is an enemy, the population of that country becomes an enemy too. Because it’s the population that allow the government to function as it does.I hope you understand that this take puts you in the company of tyrants and fascists, including the Nazis. Your hate is no better than their hate.
False equivalency.
The argument is that Americans seem to be either happy with or passively accepting what their country has become. If they were truly against Trump and MAGA they would all be in the streets participating in a general strike already.
From the outside, it seems that there is very little resistance.
Are your fucking kidding me? We are all passive? Go tell that to Renee Good’s wife and kids. Go tell it to the guy that lost an eye to ICE last week.
Wake the fuck up. And stop fighting Trump and Putin’s battles for them. You’re no better than my MAGA family members with rhetoric like this being shared here on Lemmy.
Never meant that 100% of you are passive, there are obviously ongoing protests, but nowhere near enough people are participating to have any impact.
I think it’s really awful that you’re telling Americans to either get themselves killed by the tyrant or be treated as supporters of the tyrant. Just awful.
Some people are so nationalistic that they cannot fathom the concept of some of us not wanting to die for a country we were born into.
Ironic in this situation, but not when you realize these people are either sewing or repeating propaganda designed to divide those of us that oppose what Trump, Putin and other fascists are attempting to accomplish.
Right. And it’s not like I’m doing nothing about it. I’m not a fighter, I’m a healer. I’m staying in school, enduring a shitty situation in a shitty country so that when the survivors turn up traumatized, I will be there to help them recover. Meanwhile I do what I can to arm my fellow Americans with knowledge of psychological theory - the biases and weaknesses of the human mind, how corporations and governments exploit this knowledge to empower themselves against us, and how we can strengthen our minds to resist them. That’s what I’m about, and I’m not going to let a diaper-shitting pedophile and his plans for world domination turn me into something I’m not.
If you’re so opposed to Trump what are you personally doing to oppose him? I mean other than whinging on social media about him that is.
You Americans act all morally superior towards other people who are stuck living under oppressive dictatorships and expect them to rise up, yet when you’re in the same position you get offended when told you need to do the same.
There is no voting your way out of fascism. The tyrant will have you killed even if you do nothing because he plans on starting a war with everyone else. You might as well go down fighting back.
What an obtuse way to see the situation in the United States. As if you’re using logic derived exclusively from Hollywood movies.
You’re either very ignorant about how things work here, or you’re deliberately trying to encite anger amongst people who should be allied and united against evil.
Either way, I hope you do better in the future. We are all better than diatribe like this.
It’s really not a false equivalency. Fascists and people on the wrong side of history very famously and frequently equate governments with the entire people they govern.
You do you, though.
Yep.
America didn’t get invaded by martians. This is the leadership that they chose and it appears to remain the leadership that they want.
Yeah, all Americans, eh? We’re all your enemy? We all chose this?
You’re fighting a war against your own people if you’re working class and your spouting ignorance like this.
Russian and Chinese propaganda mills love this sort of thing, though. Paint an entire people with the brush of the tyrant ruling them. Well done, Comrad.
I see. So Russia didn’t invade Ukraine and Israel isn’t exterminating Palestinians. Its just some of the people in those countries doing it. No one is responsible for what their country does.
So close.
It frequently is just some of the people in those countries doing it.
This doesn’t mean that no one is responsible, but that not everyone is responsible to the same degree. Trump and his enablers? Totally responsible. Everyone else? Lesser responsibility depending on what they did to enable in the past and what they’re doing now to reaist.
I’m sorry, but where does the responsibility actually end for you? Let’s discuss this and fully lay things out…
Are American prisoners on your list of people responsible? Would you capture our children like ICE frequently does and hold them to a trial if you could? What about the adults that voted against this regime three times, who work multiple, grueling jobs to support their families and though struggling, just barely keeping food on the table, and the medical debt to a tolerable level?
Would you blame the immigrants picking fruit in the fields, and constructing houses, all while avoiding being disappeared by the ICE gestapo? What about those Americans that have been deported - are they to blame? How about Renee Good - did she deserve what she got because she was American? MAGA certainly thinks so.
At what point, exactly, does your twisted and cruel logic start to bare moral fruit? Or are you, perhaps, just another person angry at the same people we (the sane Americans) are? Perhaps… just perhaps, we should all focus our energy on them, rather than infighting. If Trump could read this thread, he would be elated at comments like yours. He’d start new narratives about how even the left should hate our allies in and friends in Europe because they paint us all with the same brush.
A divided enemy is a weak enemy. Your argument here is fraught with fear - it’s a lashing out at everything and anything because the real enemy is far from reach. Welcome to how every sane American has felt for years now. If you read all of this, then now you might understand us a little, tiny bit better. I hope you find your way, my friend.
Together we can end this - all of this, not just what’s happening in America. The billionaires must come down, and the people must find their voice. But to do this, we must first agree to not fight one another, and to focus on the people who truly are destroying this Earth.
Easy. Do you live where bombs will be dropped during the war you are about to be start?
You put a hell of a lot of emphasis on the word “all” inferring that the commenter you replied to said it.
They didn’t, you did.
Pipe down american
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I don’t get why all these billionaires are behind this. Aren’t their billions tied to their businesses and stocks and thus are the ones who have to lose the most from the impending economic disaster?
The stock market is booming. Every working person in America is suffering to some degree right now… some are being forced out of their homes, and others closer to the top (but still a million miles from the true wealthy people) are holding off on new purchases.
In short, they control the markets completely. They have nothing to fear because this is only harming those of us on the bottom of society (numerous though we may be).
Sounds like you’re well into tariff territory. What do you export? I will make you change that opinion.
Oh NO, I guess I was wrong, there is no problem tariffs can’t solve.
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I wonder how long his gravestone will last with all those people ready to piss on it…
“Board of Peace” featuring the most evil child fuckers in existence.
“The Ministry of Truth” vibes.
That’s all he knows about France.
You’d think he’d heard of croissants given the size of him
Unless McDonalds do croissants, he wouldn’t
Not in the US though, Their menu changes regionally
US Burger King has a Croissan’wich, it’s about as unappealing as you’d imagine.
What’s the thick yellow thing? Pure cholesterol??
Pretty close, it’s a cube of scrambled egg. Somewhere around 2.5 large eggs.
Burger King does.
But does he know they’re French too?
Doubt it.
They’re not actually handy to put a grilled beef patty inside, since they size is all wrong and they get soaked and mushy with the juices.
He actually prefers to leave the bun off his burgers anyway. I’m not kidding.
I’m sure he knows French fries too.
You must think of freedom fries but indeed he does. During his stunt at a fast food restaurant last campain, he was really impressed to learn that workers don’t actually handle the freedom potatoes with their bare hands. Believe it or not they actually use some sort of spoon to put them in the basket. Crazy huh?
At mcdonalds? Well…I AM old, but when I worked there as a teenager, we just ripped open an unmarked brown paper bag, and poured them straight into a metal basket.
Then we dropped the basket in oil, pressed a button, and 3 minutes later DING FRIES ARE DONE!
…what’s the spoon for?
Yeah I might not have explained it clearly, english is not my first language. Spoon is probably not the right word.
You can find the story online easily.
Basically, he was amaze that you don’t have to touch the hot fries with you hands, once they’re cooked, and you need to them in the little box you give to the customer.
Hope that makes it clearer.
Those are from Belgium, not France.
Pretty sure they’re from McDonald’s…
What the fuck is a french fry? You mean Freedom Fries?
You’ll get him with the fromage.
You reckon he often eats cheese that isn’t square, rubbery, bright yellow, and hidden in a burger?
God damn it feels good to be the good guys. Cheers france, we’ll have some eh
Hah, joke’s on you guys, Trump already crushed our economy starting in his first term that we can’t even afford wine or champagne!
(Seriously, drinking is falling off a cliff in the US, a lot of people cite health reasons but for most of my life when I heard someone say they’re cutting back for health reasons, they just don’t wanna say they’re broke.)
So when are we tariffing the shit out of US products?
I’m sure every business in Europe suddenly having to pay 200% extra for Office 365 and mail handling will send them scrambling for a European alternative.
And they won’t go back once they’ve moved.
Yes please, let’s make foss default.
been reading about several mandating open source in government offices. due to low quality, low security microsoft crap. give them more reasons.
I had a talk about this with my boss today. We’d be fairly fucked in my department without Autodesk products. Sure, we could probably get a different software that can do similar things, but the department would become incredibly inefficient very quickly. Our product quality would suffer immensely, and our manual labour hours in production would skyrocket.
It came to me guys. I was wondering why he was so obsessed with peace because it’s not really something you’d expect from someone like him. Then I remembered all the beauty pageants. All those girls on stage babbling something about world peace.
It’s burned into his dementia ridden brain by a bunch of exploited minors regurgitating the same bullshit lines over and over again.
Ah ya the ones he also raped
He’s also dying and knows it. He has spoken in the recent past about using peace to ve able to get into heaven. He actually thinks he can barter his way into heaven. The man has no concept, none at all, of human decency for the sake of human decency. He is the worst of the worst of our species and the USians chose to elect him not once, but twice. It says a lot about USian culture, and not in a good way.
I suspect anything about heaven was likely to manipulate religious voters into voting for him.
Most likely, he is envious of other US presidents like Obama who were given a Nobel Peace Prize. For the whole ‘Board of Peace’ thing, he likely also sees it as a way to manipulate into becoming something of a world dictator who sits above world leaders.
There is a thing called the ‘Dark Triad’ of personality traits, consisting of Psychopathy (lack of empathy for others / celebration of others suffering / impulsive), Narcissism (thinking of oneself as superior) and Machiavellianism (manipulating others, seeking revenge etc…) - and they often occur together in the same person. The dark triad is correlated positively with jealousy - and dark triad people consider themselves superior to peers (even when evidence points the other way) and deserving of recognition. They are vindictive towards people who get in the way of what they think they deserve.
And that’s why the EU made sure there is now the Mercosur deal with South America, Canada free trade deal, deal with Australia, the deal with Indonesia and probably some I forgot. We all knew this moment would come.
Americans don’t realize they are a minority
Yes, they were a rich minority, and the rich part that is most interesting for trade is shrinking.
This is also what China is doing and the only loser will be the USA.
It’s quickly reaching the point where all the US will be able to export will be movies and television.
Until Trump turns on Hollywood because they won’t give him an honorary oscar, that is.
Games. Computer and console games are as big as Hollywood now
The share of USA movies and television is slowly getting smaller in the rest of the world. It’s still big but competition is rising.
Lol, Trump making a “Bored of Peace” is such a fucking joke. I hope this bloated narcissistic psychic vampire shits himself to death on camera and his family gets nuremburg’d. I’ve gone my whole life believing that no one should be subject to capital punishment but I’m starting to believe these undead cockroaches need to be made an example of.
Oh yeah you don’t wanna do what I tell you? Just watch me taxe my own citizens than!
Even worse I feel like the only people here that would drink that are Trump friends lol
Gonna be the saddest shit ever if the EU placates this dementia-ridden chucklefuck. I’m hoping they can figure out a long-term viable economic plan that cuts out the US but I’m not all that hopeful they won’t just appease him to maintain the status quo.
They really, really need to prioritize separating themselves from dependence on American tech companies and payment processors. That has to be accomplished to shield themselves.
Then they can and should embargo us and seize American assets until we get in line. After which they can resume trade, but keep the assets of the American oligarchs who have refused to defy the fascists.
EU owns twice as many treasuries as anyone else in the world…it’s be mutual suicide, but their economy would die in a fire.
The problem is that the union is politically weak due to the absence of central executive power able to enforce decisions on country governments. So countries are going to keep looking for their own interest in negotiating their little exceptions or flying under Trump radar to avoid his tantrums.
Trump is having a speed-run on running the US into the ground as hard as possible. You clowns that voted this Nazi in 🤡👏
May as well just make the tariffs 4000%.
Do it pussy.
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