don’t be sad that you’re old enough to have played on a real life ps2, or even ps1-- be glad that 9/11, 2008, covid, and 2 diaperman potus terms aren’t the most significant core memories of your childhood
Growing up in Russia, my main exposure to 9/11 lore was that Tolkien’s “Two Towers” (and yes, I know that in fact LOTR is six volumes, not three, and three volumes are publisher’s decision to group them that stuck) in older adaptations was translated as, well, “two towers”, but in newer ones as “two fortresses”.
Because there was a lot of fashion to imitate being somehow connected to cultural and other events in the USA, that’s also how older Russian TV propaganda focused on “terrorists” concerning Chechnya, basically doubling in tone news about USA in this or that about Iraq and so on.
It also successfully managed to show the ruling party as modern and western enough, and its opponents as a bunch of some mad old people from another age, bandits, neo-Nazis and out-of-this-world communists. Well, in the specific period of 2000-2007.
Which is also interesting in the sense of popular memory - it might seem weird that the general population in Russia really doesn’t want anything from that emigrated opposition, well, because that’s the exact kind of people who were the face of that government in 2000-2007, as a countermeasure to people like Starovoitova (already killed by then, just trying to explain the cultural image) and Sakharov or even Novodvorskaya.
And said general population is of all kinds of opinions and levels of education, and some of those layers and groups might even agree with those murders, but those were politicians and journalists, and these are whores. Whores are not a very respected kind of people.
I mean, that peace-loving bunch of fairies mostly consists of people who supported “pacifying” of Chechnya in the 00s. I understand they don’t think that was a crime, well I do, so they can get fucked.
That’s why the emigrant Russian opposition is not very popular in Russia. Well, after 2022 some more important things have happened on scale.
EDIT: Wrong thread, went on a rant. Just was very strange to remember that what’s now the opposition and what’s now the bloodied regime were once the same cultural entity, mimicking USA in all the wrong things.
i’m old. when 9/11 happened i heard about it on the radio on the way to work. when the DJ mentioned it being passed on to him by his producer, he thought it was a joke or prank call. then the 2nd plane hit, and it wasn’t a joke. when i got to work we all went into the boardroom and watched the news for about an hour, then they cancelled the work day so everyone could go home and make phone calls
all that to say 9/11 wasn’t a “childhood” memory for me
no. i got started with an atari. when i was in elementary school i had a famicom, which is the japanese version of the NES. PS1 came out when i was in high school
don’t be sad that you’re old enough to have played on a real life ps2, or even ps1-- be glad that 9/11, 2008, covid, and 2 diaperman potus terms aren’t the most significant core memories of your childhood
For real, I would feel like such a wizened sage if I was asked about the PS2 by some youngster!
What? I had a PS1 and PS2, and 9/11 is one of my earliest memories. ‘08 was also childhood suckery.
Covid + PedOTUS is a separate generation.
9/11 is my first memory that still has visuals attached to it because i vividly remember the room i was in when it was on tv. I own 3 ps2s as well
my mistake
Growing up in Russia, my main exposure to 9/11 lore was that Tolkien’s “Two Towers” (and yes, I know that in fact LOTR is six volumes, not three, and three volumes are publisher’s decision to group them that stuck) in older adaptations was translated as, well, “two towers”, but in newer ones as “two fortresses”.
Because there was a lot of fashion to imitate being somehow connected to cultural and other events in the USA, that’s also how older Russian TV propaganda focused on “terrorists” concerning Chechnya, basically doubling in tone news about USA in this or that about Iraq and so on.
It also successfully managed to show the ruling party as modern and western enough, and its opponents as a bunch of some mad old people from another age, bandits, neo-Nazis and out-of-this-world communists. Well, in the specific period of 2000-2007.
Which is also interesting in the sense of popular memory - it might seem weird that the general population in Russia really doesn’t want anything from that emigrated opposition, well, because that’s the exact kind of people who were the face of that government in 2000-2007, as a countermeasure to people like Starovoitova (already killed by then, just trying to explain the cultural image) and Sakharov or even Novodvorskaya.
And said general population is of all kinds of opinions and levels of education, and some of those layers and groups might even agree with those murders, but those were politicians and journalists, and these are whores. Whores are not a very respected kind of people.
I mean, that peace-loving bunch of fairies mostly consists of people who supported “pacifying” of Chechnya in the 00s. I understand they don’t think that was a crime, well I do, so they can get fucked.
That’s why the emigrant Russian opposition is not very popular in Russia. Well, after 2022 some more important things have happened on scale.
EDIT: Wrong thread, went on a rant. Just was very strange to remember that what’s now the opposition and what’s now the bloodied regime were once the same cultural entity, mimicking USA in all the wrong things.
9/11 and COVID were 20 years apart my man
That’s one long childhood
Hey, I’m not finished yet!
yea. i made the comment with us 45+ yr old people in mind. my bad
I might be stupid but it still doesn’t make any sense to me
i’m old. when 9/11 happened i heard about it on the radio on the way to work. when the DJ mentioned it being passed on to him by his producer, he thought it was a joke or prank call. then the 2nd plane hit, and it wasn’t a joke. when i got to work we all went into the boardroom and watched the news for about an hour, then they cancelled the work day so everyone could go home and make phone calls
all that to say 9/11 wasn’t a “childhood” memory for me
Then PS1 and PS2 weren’t part of your childhood either right?
no. i got started with an atari. when i was in elementary school i had a famicom, which is the japanese version of the NES. PS1 came out when i was in high school