Me, fighting with using an am5 chipset & nvidia graphics card for Wayland based distros because damn it, who needs a working machine anyway: “Heh, guess I’m not a clown”

My only regret is that I have boneitis

You think oxygen is your ally, but you merely adopted the oxygen. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t see carbon dioxide until I was already a man!

Actually we use both. For example, body weight is (traditionally) stone and lbs, but parcel weight is usually kg.

The same is true for length; height in feet, but stuff like room measurements in cm.

I think the only area where we’re actually consistent is traveling distance? All signs and gauges are in Mph rather than Km/h. In fact the only time I can think of someone talking about distance in kilometres, is to do with sports (IE a 5k/10k running event).

Oh of course, and I respect your viewpoint on the matter. It was meant to be one of the founding principals of the party afterall, healthy discourse through disagreement, and i believe that’s what we’re doing here, disagreement without being disagreeable.

I agree with that assessment. I just think it’s our respective opinions on the publicity of ZS’ statements that differ; I don’t think it’s a good idea to handle things in such a public manner, especially whilst trying to gain mass adoption for the party. It feels as though she’s leaned into the leftist infighting trope for a while now. Publicly criticizing your co-leader on tv is never a good idea, let alone less than 2 months into the setup, so I’m not surprised things have soured further since.

The letter signed by JC and the other MPs involved did mention their intent to pursue legal action, and with finances involved, it could get quite messy. So I wouldn’t expect any detailed or inflammatory public statements from the prosecuting side, given that’s the general advice in legal disputes. But that’s just pure conjecture on my part.

Its a fair point, we don’t know what’s happened behind closed doors; and a lot of this comes across as tit for tat, the other side are claiming the exact opposite. That she wasn’t excluded from any of it, and instead has chosen to act on her own accord.

If we look at the more recent history of their actions. ZS took it upon herself to announce the new party back in July, without the approval of JC or others; which I believe is where tensions started. If you add in her voicing disapproval for JC’s handling of what the terminology anti-Semitic means during his labour years back in August, it seems (to me atleast) that there is a clear and consistent pattern of ZS acting independently, presumably to cement herself as the prime candidate for the party; and in doing so, she found herself to be considered a thorn rather than key player by other MP’s in the party.

No matter which version of the truth we believe in however. Bringing the voters (and their funds) into what should have been an internal affair, was not the way to go about it. It spoils any chance of mass adoption for the party, and ZS must have known this… Which is why I believe this was less of a gambit to keep herself in the conversation, and more of a middle finger to the perceived boys club, and inadvertently potential supporters for the party.

Soccer was only ever a nickname tbf, It stood for a(socc)iation football.

I guess an equivalent would be like calling your police the bobby force.

Zarah has confirmed she acted independently, but you’re right that the mainstream media will have an absolute field day with this. Kills a lot of credibility for the party before it’s even established, and I have to wonder whether that was the intention.

The irony of signing off the email with ‘in solidarity’ and then following up with an admission that she acted independently is palpable.

Agreed. A very bleak situation that was completely avoidable.

Agreed, only just seen the update. Removing the link asap and providing a full further update for the wider audience.

Didn’t realise there was a community dedicated to ‘your party’ on lemmy. Thanks for sharing, I’ve subscribed and look forward to engaging with yourself and the rest of the community going forward.

At this stage it feels inevitable.

It was the same result for me when I tried, I didn’t realise Lemmy requires the protocol to recognise it as an external link. (Makes sense, I just hadn’t considered it) Live and learn eh! Thanks for highlighting, I’ve amended the post so the link should work now.

An interesting read for sure. It does seem to predate the announcement of opening memberships by a few days, so it would be interesting to see how his opinion fares on the latest announcement from the party.

As for the claims around certain factions within the party vying for control; this is definitely something people should look out for in the run up to founding the party, the piece seems genuine in its concern, rather than a smear campaign, and I think it’s important people are aware of the potential for bad actors within the party (just look at what happened to labour) in the run up to the founding. Thanks for sharing!

That’s interesting. Are you able to share these reports?

As far as I’m aware, there haven’t been any official meetings, as the founding process has yet to be kicked off; membership has yet to officially open, so it seems a tad premature to claim stuff like cronyism within the party; but I’m in full support of scrutinizing political groups, so I’ll definitely keep an open mind and read through the report you mention.

I agree. The situation in mainland Europe is a boiling pot, and every nation should be prepared for the worst. I think it’s a damned if we do, damned if we don’t scenario with Putin; we need to be prepared for the worst, as he is shown himself to be tyrannical and unpredictable.

I will say that I don’t think a stick or lack thereof will change Putin’s approach. He will do what he plans to do, regardless of the perceived threat from NATO countries. He’s already shown that he can defeat his enemies without a war (IE trumps appeasement surrounding Russia), so we need to be vigilant in more areas than just military. It’s a huge issue spanning multiple avenues.

All of that being said, I think (or hope) a lot of this will be hashed out via membership votes. A general anti-war stance doesn’t necessarily mean demilitarisation, as the current climate is undoubtedly a concern for many, and I would imagine the number of people who would be pro-demilitarisation right now are few and far between.

I’d imagine mainstream papers will look to smear Corbyn again should the party pose a big enough threat. Threaten the establishment with proportional taxation and every outlet in the country will be told to smear you.

I agree completely; Kiers labour is becoming more and more authoritarian in nature, further expanding on Tory work like the OSA, backdoors in e2e encrypted chats etc… and farages fascists are ripe for cannibalising the disenfranchised Tory and labour voters foolish enough to believe their drivel, so this is a much needed breath of fresh air in British politics.

I’d recommend anyone who reads this and is interested to register for the mailing list if they haven’t done so already.

The first order of business is opening up membership. The official name will be voted on by members as the second point of business. That’s laid out in the screenshot ( about 2/3rds down in bold if you’re interested. )