Alright, yes, yes, of course, yes, true, so wise, Amen, so many good communication, let me add “no original thought” and “pathetic” to the long list of wheezy’s wisdoms. Thank you for your help, really, much appreciated.

I’m not reading all that 🖕

I’ve read and understood your criticism in the first comment. I disagreed and rejected it, gave my reasoning and think you yourself
are neither helpful,
are not a good communicator,
have started off of a false premise (a fact you now ignore),
are actually screaming (caps more than once),
are slanderous in almost every sentence,
are hiding your own dickheadery under a veil of “helpfulness”,
are actually self aggrandizing through your demeaning style to reprimand my writing style based on your opinion alone,
allege stuff that’s just not true,
psychologize me to put me down,
are clearly unable to see your own failed communication.

But sure, in a few very helpful comments you analyzed, that I’m a “dickhead”, that
is “making those advocating for the Palestinians look unreasonable and irrational”,
that’s not “letting it be”,
that’s “not saying something to be helpful”,
only “cares about being correct”,
only “wants to shock” (lol),
“screams”,
only “starts to educate people after getting the reaction I supposedly were looking for” (which is factually incorrect),
only wants to argue “with someone that would never agree with me”,
that needs to go outside,
writes answers which are not worth the read,
drops into a victim complex,
is spiralling,
is definitely not your mate,
is embarrassing,
has completely lost the plot,
has deluded himself,
is rambling about irrelevant justifications,
doesn’t listen to “someone telling me I’m being a dickhead about the way I communicate”,
is not doing “the job” right,
ends every conversation “with me feeling superior for being educated”,
while doing nothing to convince people,
is “lost in my own individualization and personal identity”,
“makes it all about myself”,
“plays victim”,
“acts like a special snowflake liberal”,
“refuses to address the actual criticism”,
is “stuck in the same defensive stance RIGHT NOW”,
“can’t understand” what your well formulated, benevolent criticism is about,
“closes people off, by pissing them off” (happens, true, get over it),
does not understand, that your criticism “comes from a place of understanding” and
is one of the people being “hopeless in trying to be helped”.

Thank you so much, that you started “this conversation” with “empathy for my frustrations”, with “agreeing with my definitions and criticisms”. Also, thank you for wasting both of our time, when we could have used it “for the cause”.

As I said, the fuck off is warranted. And if somebody is a dickhead here, that’s you. You just got triggered, hard. Btw, I’m not making it about myself, you keep making it about me. removed

It’s straight wrong stuff you proclaim. Either read the comment or stfu.

Classic.
Sleazy wheezy, I see.

I had to read your two mistaken diatribes, too. I‘m reacting directly to their substance. You‘re so full of yourself, that you‘re not even reading the answers.

Stop accusing me of shit I didnt do.
Stop being dishonest.
Stop harrassing me.

But Iran did attack the US back.

Iran usually attacks US military bases, equipment and personal which are harboured by their vassal states surrounding Iran.

The USrael usually mass murder school girls, flatten hospitals or call civilians terrorists to excuse their slaughter.

Also, AP frames it as if the initial attacks stem from Iran towards ships in the Strait of Hormuz, all the while ignoring, that part of the MoU was for Israel to stop the ethnic cleansing and annexation of southern Libanon, which of course they didn’t adhere to.

You‘re ridiculous. Please stop wasting my time with your fantasy arguments.

1. That guy Catoblepas wasn’t ripe for radicalization by any means. They’re trying to find excuses as to why the talking points of his Democratic Party hopeful are morally good. They also don’t understand what Zionism is.
2. We‘re not in a coffee shop, but in an international forum about (political) world news. I‘m invited to participate by the nature of the thing we‘re communicating on. Drink your coffee however you want, but if you showcase your ignorance on the internet, chances are, someone will call you out for it. You are inserting yourself in this fictional coffee shop situation yourself, only you are tone policing and attacking by the use of ad hominem.
3. I’m not screaming.
4. I met them, where they’re at, as they participated and showcased some kind of ignorance (as in “lack of knowledge”), by stating untrue things to make a point. I replied fact based and calm.
5. By holding facts against misguided feelings, I’m very much saying something to be helpful.
6. There’s nothing shocking about what I said. I fact checked the other user. If it’s shocking to people that their favorite latest Party talking head is not actually the cool guy they thought he would be, then idk, someone should confront them with their delusions. Kinda sad, that you claim that position, without actually doing it.
7. The only self aggrandizement is coming from you, as you proclaim to have moral superiority by way of your moderate language (which is not moderate, mind you) and by standing tall as the wise person, reprimanding other user’s communication. You’re also ridiculous, as your critiques are misguided and flat out wrong.
8. I did not start this thread, I did not post the jesting commentary “Zionist detained by Zionist is pretty funny, NGL. 😂” – that was @Maeve@kbin.earth – and they were factually correct. And it’s exactly funny, because it’s true. It’s also sad. This is the state of things.
9. I only started educating people, how you frame it, after they put out claims, that contradicted the previous comment and my understanding of the factors involved. Only then, did I check for myself, what the actual stances of the politician in question are by actually doing some research, listening and reading and as I saw the contradictions cleared, I shared them with the user propagating the incorrect information by providing quotes and sources.
10. The only person looking for some reaction is you, by counterfactually tone policing other people.
11. I didn’t argue with someone that would never agree with me, how would I know? I corrected misinformation by stating facts in the hope that this person or any other onlooker would be able to see through the demagogic rhetoric of a politician trying to impress people in order for them to vote for him.
12. I didn’t scream, I’m not in a coffee shop. I’m in the biggest community of the fediverse, which is full of liberal confusions, western propaganda and even mods making sure it stays that way.
13. You’re literally commenting, because you think you’re better than me. You are absolutely way off base and largely just wrong, which makes this whole thing quite embarrassing. If you’d be worried about my communication destroying the seemingly fragile progress you made in educating liberal people by appeasement, you could have send a message. But actually, you decided to be the screamer in a fictional coffee shop. The fuck off is warranted, an excuse for your deranged allegations and defaming deliberations, too.
14. And no, Apartheid Africa did not end because of liberal appeasement. Just LOL.

Organise through an anti-imperialist organisation. Stop taking mainstream media or party talking heads seriously, look for serious alternative media. Stop acting on a lesser evil paradigm. Learn about the role of the USA in the world, by listening to the voices opposing the USA, not to become anti-American or some shit, but to deprogram.

I’m not in the USA, I don’t know what’s locally available, you will have to do the work yourself and that starts with educating yourself.

Here’s more information on his stance, which is quite similar to Bernie’s:

Khanna distanced himself from extremist elements^[1] within the pro-Palestinian movement in his interview with J., saying he has repeatedly defended Israel’s right to exist.

“I have unequivocally, since Day 1, condemned ‘globalize the intifada,’” he said, referencing a phrase that has dogged New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, who has declined to condemn it. “I have never supported BDS,” Khanna added, speaking of the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement against Israel. Khanna also noted that he voted to condemn the chant “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” in April of last year, parting with 43 other Democrats including progressives like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.^[2]

From the “J. The Jewish News of Northern California” interview, which is only 10 months old, where Khanna reassured his support for the Zionist project on almost every relevant talking point.

In the abc interview, which is only 2 months old, you can also hear, how he’s not actively working against Israel, he’s merely trying, at least in his rhetoric, to keep American tax payer money in the country, arguing that Israel is rich enough to provide for their own (fiscal America First rhetoric). But I’m sure, if you pressed him on it, that absolutely excludes weapons manufacturing on American soil, that is then shipped directly to Israel to conduct a genocide and active expansionism, as that would impede on the profits of US capital.

He supports Israel’s Iron Dome and argues for an unequal two-state solution with a completely demilitarized Palestine.

He is a Zionist and he positions himself as a Democratic Party Presidential candidate. He absolutely is an empire manager and he will rule like one.

Bernie was an Israeli colonists in his past.

Well then, so there’s a difference. Although, we’re talking about their rhetoric and roles in the Democratic Party of the US Empire, today. And you only brought that up to differentiate them on a detail, after the fact.

1. “extremist elements”, as should be clear, being people that fight for Palestinian liberation and an end of the genocide by the Apartheid regime.
2. So basically following the progressives except for Palestine scheme.

So, basically same as Khanna.

We have to grade on the curve over here, …

No, no you really don’t. Stop being so god damn tame.

Please explain how 2. is any different from 1., as the “war”, the diseases and the genocide all happened in direct opposition to the natives?

There’s nothing neutral about the term.

E: Also, curious how the settler explains to the native, what the term settlers means.

Yes, it’s a good thing he calls the things that are the things that are, after almost 3 years of relentless barbarism, I’d say that’s approaching the bare minimum threshold. clap clap. I don’t give a shit, what position he takes in his Zionist party in order to shape the brand of said party to soften the outrage of their voter base and position himself as the reasonable presidential candidate.

I believe that Zionism is self-determination of the Jewish people, and the right for Israel to exist. And I support that.

He expresses support for a political ideology based on racism, aiming for an ethno-nationalist state.

He repeatedly supports the notion of a “right to exist”, which is not a real thing; it’s only an argument in the context of defending the Zionist project. He’s proclaiming a right to exist for a settler colonial project based on ethnic cleansing and occupation of Palestinian land.

(…) antisemitism is denying the idea of a Jewish state. And I reject those (…) premises.

He expresses support for an etno-nationalist idea and also conflated anti-semitism with anti-zionism, which itself is anti-semitic.

Previously, I quoted him expressing support for a two-state solution under Israeli term. A two-state solution that requires Palestinians to recognize Israel as a Jewish state enshrines its ethno-nationalist character. A “demilitarized” Palestinian state would lack genuine sovereignty while Israel retains full military capacity—making it a subordinate entity, not a state of equals. The very premise accepts the legitimacy of a Jewish state on Palestinian land.

As I already quoted several things he said that are Zionist by definition in my previous comment, I suspect you don’t really have an understanding of what it even means. I’m not willing to descent into some back-and-forth with a person that’s primarily looking for excuses. Either learn, or stop pretending.

On Zionism:

• https://www.fairobserver.com/region/middle_east_north_africa/a-self-hating-jews-guide-to-zionist-talking-points-93612/
• https://letstalkpalestine.com/palestine101/zionism/

Interview:

• https://jweekly.com/2025/10/17/rep-ro-khanna-says-he-supports-zionism-in-exclusive-interview-on-jewish-issues/

Weird plea, sorry. This post has more than enough praise for the guy. I’m merely stating facts to rebuke naive or false narratives and to stop Zionist normalization. It’s not my job to appease Liberals or refrain from stating inconvenient truths.

Some Libs might see this and break through. Let it happen.

I don’t give a shit about congressmen in the imperialist core and I’m certainly not going to support controlled opposition of a system I reject outright. This system has to end. Fuck off.

Yes, classic liberal Zionist rhetoric.

Is the Democratic Party no longer a pro Israel party?

We’re a party that believes in two states and peace. (…) Why aren’t we doing the Arab Peace Plan? Two states, you have a Palestinian state, which is demilitarized, and an Israeli state. That’s what we’re for, we should be for peace and we should be for justice in this region. (…) And yes, we need a secure Israel, but not an Israel led by Netanyahu, who killed 70.000 people in Gaza. (…) I’m for the Iron Dome technology, (…) I’m glad Israel has it.

He’s towing the party line, and the Democratic Party is very much a Zionist organisation. He doesn’t like the optics of the genocide, blames the current regime and complains about the lost support of the younger generation and that a foreign prime minister sits in the holy US-American situation room, as only US-American presidents decide which war crimes (in the name of the USA) are to be made. He what’s to reduce open pro Israel spending, as he’s advocating America First ideology.

He’s supporting the Zionist project. Stop coping.

Ah, the superiority of the western white man. We‘re really just such a great bunch.

Also, people confuse comparison with equation.

Apart from the other answer talking about the very recent escalation, which is a physical blockade to completely starve the island, about the embargo itself: it has been voted on several times in the UN in order to stop it, but it’s always being vetoed by USrael. It’s a grave human rights violation with the explicit aim to cripple the small island in every dimension. How does the embargo actually work? It‘s not really true, that it‘s not preventing other countries from trading with Cuba, as the reality looks like this: every company that trades with the tiny island will be barred from trading with the world‘s superpower USA. Guess what happens? Almost no company does actively trade with Cuba, as it would automatically lose access to the huge US market. It‘s an economic blockade to actively prevent Cuba from developing.

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You’re doing a good job, nice to have you around and busy! Although, I do hope you’re able to offset the experiences here with some positive RL stuff.