Lol. You’re sitting there on your phone created by exploited workers, with your HVAC turned on burning coal, watching tv burning coal, using hot water burning gas (likely not even using a heat pump). Your environment footprint is obviously excellent.

Are you at least a vegetarian (I’m not, but just wondering if you’re even doing the bare minimum). Do you think your garbage is magically converted into environmental goodness at the landfill?

The guys on Everest are sitting there in a blanket, aren’t taking showers and are using solar power. Ironically, other than the flights, their footprint is probably lower lol. They also try to minimise waste too

You were caught out lying like “they burn wood”.

I literally do hiking as a hobby, which is likely less environmentally damaging than you sitting at home on your computer.I operate a free hiking group in my free time. You know nothing about me. I guess the people who join my trips owe me credit for any walk they do too?

And I literally am friends with a few Nepalese people that I met in Nepal… who apparently added me on Facebook after getting exploited (apparently)

Sorry, you have no clue whatsoever, no experience (not even hiking it feels like) and your knowledge seems entirely limited to a single documentary

I suggest your next doco is on space, so you can pretend you’re an astronaut. Oh wait, Neil Armstrong is gross too apparently.

Nobody was climbing Everest before then for hundreds of years. Absolutely 0% fucking chance that happened lol… especially from the Nepalese side (I seriously doubt from tibet either).

The ice fall on the Nepal side is literally moving 1m every day and constantly changes for starters, and by the time you set up the camps, they’d be buried. Glacier travel you have a team of 2-3 people because of things like ice bridges and crevasses too and it would be impossible to summit without ladders

It can’t be done without a large team, just like you can’t captain a submarine without a team who built it, and helps maintain it. It is a group effort. Even a job like programming owes credit to a lot of people. Every thing you do does

You do realize that Tenzing was Nepalese too right? He was there with Edmund. Nims purja also had both a small team of climbers who were highly experienced and a much larger team helping. He is Nepalese. Is it exploitation by him too?

What’s gross at this point, is that watching a bbc documentary doesn’t make you a professional lol .You know no dudes, so, I know more dudes than you.

You’re not even getting some of the basics right.

1. On both my trips they only burnt dried yak dung and even the hot water either uses massive reflector solar mirrors or gas . Nobody is carrying wood to any of the camps. Do you think at camp 4 they’re sitting oxygen deprived around a nice fire which produces more co2?
2. Are you running on full renewables at home? Any renewables? Or, is there a double standard? Its ok for you to burn wood at home? If you’re sitting there only with a blanket and no HVAC, congrats, that’s how you stay warm at camp
3. When you go hiking, or pull over on a long drive, do you use a wag bag? If not, you’re not any better than them…
4. The climbing permit has now changed and people have to carry down some garbage, and there is a lot of work going into cleanup. Yes it’s a problem, but it doesn’t make climbing any easier.
5. At kala pattar actually (5500m), I actually saw a mouse which was likely eating scraps. If anything, ironically there is actually more life due to tourists because it’s barren even at that altitude
6. Your phone was produced by someone who didn’t want to work but had to. What is your opinion on that?
7. I also had the great fortune to have lunch with one of the record holders for the first people to complete the seven summits. Nothing about him shouted “wealthy tech bro”. In fact. Nobody at Unwin hut seemed to recognize him except my trainer(who is also a record holder related to Everest)

At this point you’re throwing random things you heard from the documentary at the wall and simply claiming it’s relevant. Big shocker, but a documentary is trying to paint a story. The funny thing is that on one of those documentaries, apparently my guide can be heard on the radio telling people to “go back to sleep”.

Go do a mountaineering course, and then report back at how little of an accomplishment even 8000m is, let alone an altitude where your body is dying, and you have limited time to summit and return before it does.

Also, one other fact that people don’t realise, is that using oxygen makes it sound like a cakewalk, but its not.

Your breath has water vapour in it that freezes and accumulates. So, you’re even competing with your oxygen mask getting frozen shut apparently at high altitude, and have to squeeze it regularly to keep it clean). At 8000m+ you need it, and to sleep at 8000m, you apparently still need some oxygen, or you gag.

Apparently oxygen bottle theft is also common which is another problem

Once you’re at 8000m (camp 4), you’re basically on your own… Yes, its a bigger accomplishment to set up camps and carry everything up, but, it doesn’t mean that even getting to 7000M isn’t a huge achievement (Everest is 8900m).

I am planning to do a 700km walk hopefully within the next year, and, I don’t think anyone is going to downplay it simply because I have done food drops (and had others helping with food drops). Well… Maybe some will…

Finally, Norgay Tenzing and Edmund Hillary had a team of 400 people helping them climb Everest. Yes, that took money too. Are you saying that it wasn’t an achievement?

You’re being upvoted, but, what experience do you have mountaineering training? Any? Have you even got hiking experience

It feels like you’re just saying stuff that simply sounds valid, but is distorted.

1. A good company costs 60K minimum, and another 20K if you want 4L of oxygen.
2. No, you cant just spend 60K and climb either. Nobody will take you.
3. You MUST have 7000m experience, which eliminates mountains like Island Peak and Mera (which was the FULL intention), and it means you have experience staying overnight at altitude.
4. Don’t speak on behalf of the locals. I personally knew 2 different Sherpas who want to climb Everest. One did, the other wanted to (and hopefully has already). Operating as a guide allows them to achieve this
5. Preparing the camps is a matter of time primarily. Summit guides have the advantage of living at 4000m+, so it saves a lot of time.
6. You still carry your own gear at 8000m+ which is basically 30% Oxygen, and you cannot acclimatise.
7. Clients still do many acclimatisation climbs. Getting the camps prepared is basically a matter of time (months).
8. Whilst I agree a lot of it is just rich people trying to get attention, don’t underestimate the level of fitness it takes. Based on my experience a huge number of people can’t even get to base camp (which is only 5400m). People doing Everest don’t simply wake up and do acclimatisation walks. Even at 6000M, you’re at 40% Oxygen, and its already a bit hard to breath… Every step feels a lot harder
9. Staying at the camps isn’t as luxurious as you think lol. That being said, at places like Island Peak Base camp, it actually takes hours to go fetch water. The Base Camp manager handles that
10. Good companies still pay sherpas the FULL amount even if summit/climbing is completely cancelled for the year.
11. I haven’t climbed Everest, but, don’t underestimate the fear of being dropped off in a glacier for the first time, and being told you’ll fall into a crevasse at some point during training. It takes courage too. I have done a large ladder crossing. And, suspect you know what it’s like to wake up and midnight, start climbing, and simply just hope things are ok

Doesn’t make it a fake ass accomplishment

You can’t just stroll up there still.

I’ve done up to 6000m, and hoping to do 7000m.

You do rely on sherpas, but it still isn’t a day hike either. Even Hillary’s team used sherpas to assist

I’m having an argument with idiots here in Australia trying to “protect women”. No joke, most of them are toxic blokes who are trying to be masculine. I even got told by one I’m not a man, because I should be protecting women.

In another thread, there was a guy who was posting back and forth telling me I was a guy dictating things… whilst, I didn’t even comment what should be done. I just commented that climbing gyms are running womxn nights for years without issue and it’s a non issue is causing some of them to go nuts

In fact, they solved the dilemma entirely by just going unisex (and, the toilet cubicles are full length and mostly soundproof it feels like, so they’re actually awesome

Apple only needs to push a dodgy software update to the phone… No need for a backdoor. All phones are registered with Apple so they know who to push to

Here in Australia that would apply too. Tesla would absolutely be found negligent

Trump also campaigns against happiness… The snowflake got upset that Kamala laughed at all

Everything he does is about money. Even the YMCA dance crap clearly isn’t him having fun, it’s just he tried it once, it got attention, and so he uses it as a tool to get votes. It’s also why he keeps doing it. He has nothing original

Sold both of my oculus headsets a few months ago. Looking forward to this

Any situation. Even the boot leaks water apparently, and the official solution is to use tubs

I legit can’t think of why you would buy it, as there are other EV Utes out there which seem better

The only good thing is that like the VW Beetle there might be collectors value in this (or like the Yugo)

Except the ones that submit AI slop patches to projects without even understanding it or being upfront about it

Our local racist politician here in Australia didn’t complete high school

She’s stated education is woke…

Not in my household. In some cultures the concept of 0 doesn’t even exist

This guy is definitely in the Epstein files… probably a supplier…

Yep… Here in Australia, they call them all “Raj”.

Not all of them, but, at least on Facebook, they seem to make us look bad internationally

I hate trackpads in general.

Their first gen of touchpad however was the worst I ever saw

It was on the last PowerBook pro (I think)

And it was just yet another example of bad hardware apple released, but few people talk about, and Steve was in charge when it happened

This is particularly an issue here in Australia.

Our most vocal racist community is our Truckie community. They blame everyone for everything except themselves. They even argue that normal drivers shouldn’t pull over for sleep and that it’s killing Truckies (less spots for them to stop). It’s always about them…

And they always love to emphasise how important and irresplacable they are, despite the fact it’s one of Australia’s lowest skilled jobs.

When fuel prices went up, many of them were demanding they strike and block all the roads because many signed bad/risky contracts they didn’t want to blame themselves for

Not all of them, but the problem is so bad a newspaper even recently published how toxic they were

I’ve been trying (like everyone else) for steam controller.

My sidewinder was awesome. Actually forgot all about it