

Pretty sure they are. Incestuous relationships between consenting adults (with the age varying by location) are permitted, including in the Netherlands, France, Slovenia, and Spain. Why not check before making such a statement?


Pretty sure they are. Incestuous relationships between consenting adults (with the age varying by location) are permitted, including in the Netherlands, France, Slovenia, and Spain. Why not check before making such a statement?


Excuse me! Loads of Western European countries allow full incest (e.g. Belgium, France, Spain, etc.) so let’s not pick on us Brits for allowing cousins to fuck.


Did you deliberately type “Guy’s” to trigger me?
Edit: and “effect” as well, of course.


That’s a good point.


Surely you couldn’t care less? Otherwise, you could actually care less.


The SOLAS regulations that came into effect were mainly around lifeboat provision.
One cannot build a liner with full compartmentalisation, and nothing in the two Enquiries said otherwise. Titanic wasn’t a warship. No other civilian ship - even today - has fully watertight compartments.
It didn’t sink because of its design. It sank because it was driven at 22.5 knots into an iceberg. If you want to know more, read the book I linked in my original reply to OP or visit Encyclopedia Titanica.


Possibly. It was never said to be unsinkable, that was a myth. Certainly any ship can be sunk by poor seamanship or adverse circumstances.


This was common with coal-fired ships in those days. It had no impact on the sinking.


That was absolutely not an issue. Titanic was a 4 compartment ship: any 4 compartments could be flooded without the ship sinking. Thus was WAY superior to the vast majority of ships sailing in 1912. Her design was superb.
When she hit the iceberg, 5 compartments were holed. No-one foresaw such severe damage as a possibility and it only happened because of the unique circumstances of the collision (actually, the alliision) with the 'berg.
In short, RMS Titanic was designed and built superbly.


There was nothing wrong with RMS Titanic. Her first sister, RMS Olympic, trundled along until being scapped in 1936 after the merger with Cunard. The issue with the Titanic was that she was driven into an iceberg.
EDIT: To understand the story of RMS Titanic, there are many superb books you could read (David Brown’s ‘Last Log of the Titanic’ is a favourite of mine) but I’d recommend reading this, which is IMO the absolute best: https://thehistorypress.co.uk/publication/report-into-the-loss-of-the-ss-titanic
EDIT 2: I’ve been a Titanorak for decades and used to post regularly on Reddit but I’m past all that now. I’m not an expert. If you want to read the opinions of experts, visit Encyclopedia Titanica and peruse the articles there. Avoid books pushing conspiracy theories (coal fire damage, swapped ships, etc.) and go to the original source material: the British and American Enquiries, both of which are available online. You’ll have a blast and enjoy the rabbit holes, and perhaps even make new friends; I did!
“Everyone” is a very, very high bar.
You’re very welcome. Glad it was useful.
I’m not Australian so struggled with some of the language (e.g. ‘supply’) so I found this, which gives a little context.


We used to live here. Weird seeing the place in the news!


Opens ever so slooooowly using Gigaclear and Firefox; it’s as if the site is overloaded and it doesn’t fully load. No luck on Vodafone 4G; the connection times out.
Oh do fuck off, there’s a good chap.