I get where you’re going, a human body isn’t quite comparable to those factors though, it’s a bit more complex than that, because what you’re trying to do is kick in a chemical reaction to release hormones to signal to your fat cells to release them, and that they no longer need to be stored.

In that premise you need to look at why your body stores fat, and in what mechanisms it releases them.

Fat is seen by the body as more of a battery, to save itself (you) if shortages should occur, which is kinda where the calories in vs calories out come from. Right, but, that’s a temporary, survival mechanism that you’re trying to kick in there, and when you tell your body you don’t need to be in survival mechanism mode, any more, it goes, “oh, look, we’re resting, that fat that I stored saved us, I need to save more”

You can’t continually operate in a calorie deficit, and exercising more than you intake. It’s not sustainable long term. Your body will try and bounce back to it’s “normal”.

Calories in and of themselves don’t have one static notion or rule, summing up all things edible to calories is entirely deceptive, in and of itself. Food offers different nutrients, and your body is really good at making the essential nutrients it needs, out of chemical reactions, from whatever you put in, other than some essential amino acids, which is can’t make on its own. But also, different foods do different things to your digestive system on the way through.

Calling all food calories, and trying to reduce it to a same action product, in the first part of the equation (calories in) is like saying anything with computing powers, is the same and can and does the same actions, but you can’t send emails with your alarm clock.

Different foods offer different energy output and productions in the body. You won’t get the same energy levels from fibre that you do from protein. So summing up all food into one label like that, ignores so many chemical factors that occur in the body when you digest food, and how different foods operate in said meat machine.

Not all calories are equal, so the premise is inaccurate, in that summation.

Calories out, similarly ignores huge wafts of data, chemical reactions, hormone functions, metabolic rates, genetics, gender (it has only ever been a model tested, if you can call it that, on males), age, and more. It, also similarly ignores the base systems of the body, and why it stores fat, what happens if you release fat in the wrong way, and the rubber band effect, that causes. I could go into so much detail about that part, but I’m already waffling.

I don’t know if thermodynamics matches how a human body sets off a chain reaction to release fat cells, but if I were to relate it to energy, which thermodynamics is a form of. Because we’re talking about a very complex system of chemical reactions. It’s a way too simplistic thing to relate it to, because the human body has so many hormones that all combined do so many different coded locks and key processes in the body. Adrenalin is a hormone, dopamine is a hormone, even histamine (allergy reactions) are hormones. And they all signal different actions to and within different cells of the body.

Whereas energy, in physics is a very simplistic thing that reacts the same every time, in so much as that they have equations that math it out, every time. You can calculate the energy loss, resistance, voltage, amps etc, and they’re the same, because it’s one form, not a complex system, which a human body is. It’s also not going to equate to the same calculable set of parameters in every human body, like you can with energy. Energy is “a” being equal to “c” divided by “b”, and it will always be the same. Every human body absorbs and processes different nutrient intake differently.

But imagine if you told everyone, instead, to find a long term comfortable sustainable diet rich with variety of fruits, vegetables, legumes and beans, nuts, meats. Less, ideally no, processed foods or junk foods, and just moved their body frequently and regularly, nothing big, just something. Minimally. (that not being the entirety of it) how many businesses and whole bodies of corporations does that message, put out of business?

See but I think we’re both actually saying the same thing. The amount of factors that go into calories in vs calories out, essentially makes it unusable. Just looking at calories as a base whole product, not the individual piece of food and the nutrients it provides, is mad. By that rationale you could just live on oranges. They’re calories, or junk food. Calories.

It’s not calculable, how one individual body absorbs, processes, and then manufactures the essential nutrients it needs, from “calories”. It’s essentially saying how much food in vs how much food burning out. But that’s not how fat is turned from fat to energy consumption, by the human body. It has nothing about the essential needs of the body.

It’s a myth perpetuated by diet industry that only keeps you on the hamster wheel of weight loss and, for most people not genetically gifted, never really works. Or only works short term but then your body goes into survival mode, and stacks it all, and more, back on.

Here’s a an article that might help say things better than I am. https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/05/its-time-to-bust-the-calories-in-calories-out-weight-loss-myth.html

Predatory af, right! Similarly as predatory. There’s 18 ingredients in maccas chips. Wtf.

Yeah, exactly, calories in vs calories out is just another myth that feeds the diet industry’s bottom line. It’s not accurate. Like bmi used to be the big thing, but that’s not an accurate measurement system at all.

I had an absolute fuck waffle for ages, nobody told me about frozen shoulder. Although I didn’t go to an actual doctor, so

Does anyone really believe it was ever about protecting the kids? I thought it was super obvious it’s about mass surveillance. It’s so they can link a database of *exactly who is saying what. And then do something evil af with that info, yeah? It’s just being poorly framed as “protecting kids” so no one can object, then they look like they don’t “care about kids”. Even though there’s so much proof it doesn’t help kids. What would help kids is parents who are able to be with their kids, rather than have to work fingers to bone to just scrape by. They could do information packages for parents, informing them of the risks and how to mitigate, as has been done before. This empowers no one, even if you believe their whole diatribe.

Absolutely, do that. You can’t control the forest when you only own one tree. It’s not the individuals fault that the laws, and regulations have become predatory. Be ok with voting against your own interests if making the system more fair becomes an option down the line, even if that will effect your hip pocket. That’s what needs to change, in more sectors than just housing, people need to be ok with voting against their own interests, if it means making the system more fair for underprivileged. Because those are the ladders that have been removed, and that is the way to put them back.

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. Yeah, I could really work on my delivery. I feel like it’s probably coming across that way because I’m mostly angry venting into the wild, rather than speaking to people, and I really need to work on that. I’m just so angry about all that I see, and I don’t expect people to actually listen to anything I say, that’s probably a byproduct of being a mum for the last, well, it’s been over 30 years now. So I feel like I’m probably doing more screaming into a pillow, than proper adult discourse. I just want to vent my anger, I just want someone to say, yeah, shits fucked up, back to me.

Just to clarify, It’s not that I think landlords, individually are evil, I just see how they’re being weaponised. I just read a few lines and it clicked some things together.

I’ve been consuming too much history stuff, lately. It’s making me really angry.

This and a few other key pieces floating around. History, capitalisms usual trajectory, current happenings. The fact that it’s so bad and no politicians are doing anything, but like multiple places in the world. The levels of fascism popping up everywhere. Capitalism is a pyramid scheme where the people at the top want exponential growth, with a finite amount they can take from. The genocides going on, are to increase profits and control world shipping corridors. If they take all of our land, they have the majority of the populous in the world, as a slave work force, we would work just to pay them for the roof over our heads. The rules around renting are getting so extreme, and nothing is being done about regulating this, to protect the renters rights. Without renters, the house they live in falls into rot, and they go out of business overnight. But renters aren’t treated like the customer, we’re gaslight into believing renters are subservient to landlords and landlords are doing renters a favor (by letting them pay off the landlords property, and or lining their pockets) the trajectory we’re currently on, and the pace at which the rules and laws are becoming a tighter noose around the renters neck, tells me it’s getting a lot worse, very fast. I don’t know, now I’m rambling. I’m tired. I don’t even know if I’m making sense right now.

All of a sudden I can see, more clearly, how “landlord” is a form of controlling the poor, like low wages is, it’s not just an imbalance in the current system where they’ve accidentally made the system entirely too heavy with investors and not rebalanced the system to be fair, that’s no accident. It’s a system and purposeful tool of oppression. They aren’t going to make housing more affordable or do anything about the fact “landlords” (landlords, corporations, Airbnb, owning houses) hold too much power. That’s by design. Capitalism creates slavery in insidious ways, until suddenly it’s not insidious, but by then it’s too late.

Yea, llittle could mean stature, too.

Those are opinions, not facts. Opinions are not facts. That’s just what you think and feel, relevant only to you. Your opinion doesn’t shoot someone else’s opinion down, if they differ, that just means you disagree. If you disagree with someone, you come off douchey af if you try and tell them they’re wrong, because you have a different opinion. You are better off (as in you come across less douchey) if you just ask people about their opinions, if they differ to yours, because, that expands your ability to understand more about the world. If you stay in your own little echo chamber, and never step outside your comfort zone, your mind stays small.

But to answer your other question, I would not say “that sounds likely false” to someone, that instantly puts you on the defensive and I actually want to know, if someone has different information than me, or has formed a different opinion, I want to know why. If I know they’re definitely wrong, I ask questions that lead them to the conclusion, without having to say, you’ve been duped by propaganda, because if they aren’t capable of coming to that conclusion on their own, they won’t take it from me in another way, anyway. People don’t respond well to being told, straight up, they’re wrong, that’s not a way to discuss, and it doesn’t work to help people change their minds.

Why do people do this, just pull apart someone’s comment, dismiss and disregard everything they say. No questions. Just, bam bam bam, you’re wrong on all counts, because my opinion thinks you are wrong and my opinion is somehow more valid than yours. Do you talk to people like this irl. Wtf.

Yeah, emotional intelligence is hugely overlooked, too, when interpreting what others say, and to also not be swept up by every little thing, and that low eq breeds for resentment, which is rife for the brainwashing that propaganda is. We all need to be focusing on teaching the next Gen how to step outside their emotions, as an observer, and reflect on the message they are for oneself, not a cue for how to treat others, or define oneself by, and to look inside and heal, or self care, if those emotional messages are extreme. That’s your own little tamagotchi to care for. It’s not even iq, it’s eq (and eq can always be built as high as you want to go) , and the world would be a different place. It’s easy not to care, when you feel like you have been thrown out with the trash, and knee jerk to all your emotions, rather than be an entity that observes your emotions.

ETA, added words, because distraction.

Not to down Tibetan throat singing, because that shit is awesome, no shade to my girl, either, because she said she listen to all types, she didn’t say she liking all types. She hasn’t left the table!!

Is “terrorist” their new code word for “I don’t like this”

I completely agree, it’s entirely fascinating, if you have time to converse with someone about the culture of the specific areas of where you live, that would make for brilliant conversation. It’s just that people won’t know the culture, without that conversation, so they might know some of the names of the cities and states, but they wouldn’t know what the people are, generally like, in those areas. If you’re talking with someone who is more familiar, they would understand you’re communicating your beliefs and culture, but anyone outside that lived knowledge, doesn’t understand that, if you mention you’re from a certain place, that means you align with certain beliefs. Although I can certainly understand still leading with that, and maybe more people will get a feel for it, the more you explain and get chances to have those conversations.

Aww, Needs some of that proprioceptive sensory stimulation, but never had the supports to help him find healthy ways to do it. Poor buddy.

You understand differentiation for demographics in certain areas, but no one else does, it just confuses people abroad when you talk about what city you’re from. Like if I started talking about Melbournites, vs sydnesiders you wouldn’t be able to chime in on the conversation.

And sue for costs, from the manufacturers, if plastic is too expensive, they’ll stop using it, if they had to pay the environmental costs, it would become too expensive.