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Cake day: November 5th, 2022

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  • @HermitBee because that’s why Reeves said electric vehicles should pay per mile. She announced it by saying "Because all cars contribute to the wear and tear on our roads, I will ensure that drivers are taxed according to how much they drive, not just by the type of car they use.”
    I’m not saying this particularly carries through to how roads are funded; I’m saying if this claim *is* the reason to tax EVs then the tax should be structured differently.



  • @TIN I agree with your last point: the per-mile setup should apply to all vehicles according to size and weight if it is truly for road wear. Pollution can then be captured separately according to fuel source. Unfortunately the government has been too toothless to increase fuel duty for years.
    Regarding your other point: yes! I think councils should run permit charging like resident parking: if you have a resident permit you can charge in council car parks for £x.



  • @TIN and, lastly, if all your roads have cars parked along them then there is no room for safe cycle lanes, which again challenges any efforts towards net zero. Not least for children and teens, as suddenly all their parents have to chauffeur them in cars for every middle-distance urban journey for their entire childhood and adolescence to get them safely to their destinations, rather than letting them get there alone or cycling alongside them in a segregated lane.


  • @TIN and high streets suffer because walkable town centres suddenly become a less tempting option for the people who could spend ten minutes walking in, or ten minutes driving *out* to a supermarket they can park at (where again, their parking is “free”, ie it is subsidised by shoppers paying more, and not all of those shoppers are drivers)


  • @TIN meanwhile buses are held up in traffic by drivers living in or near urban centres, and those car owners drive door to door rather than using public transport, reducing the profitability of the public transport and leaving fewer transport options for non-drivers. Meanwhile pedestrians are left with no or narrow pavements because an entire lane of the carriageway, maybe two, is given over to stationary vehicles.


  • @TIN I’m based in the UK. I agree that parts of this could have been thought through better but I don’t think publicly subsidised parking outside homes that were built within walking distance of towns & stations, because that was how you reached towns before cars existed, is neutral or a net good. Those houses become overvalued because people price in cheap parking, meaning people who can’t/can’t afford to drive are priced out of homes that would suit their lifestyles.



  • @TIN @manualoverride hmmm. I never like this argument. it implies you bought a car that you couldn’t store with the assumption that you could get subsidised (perhaps free) parking on public land?

    Don’t get me wrong, I feel for you, but “I couldn’t afford a plot big enough for a car in my chosen location, and wasn’t willing to live somewhere cheaper, but bought a car anyway” is the neutral position people think it is. I’d like an extension but I can’t just put a home office on the road outside.