Have these people just never actually read the Bible, or something?
No but they thump it all the time
Acquaintance from high school married a preacher man, “met” him on FaceBook. Very intelligent and well educated man. His doctorate in divinity is real, he worked for it, absolute expert. His arguments were well crafted and we loved poking each other. Plus, we were both hot pepper fanatics and growers. :)
Here’s the point: That’s the only Christian I’ve met in life that could actually debate Biblical views. I can turn most of them into a raging, spitting, cursing mess with a dozen questions, and they almost never engage for the whole dozen.
Guess I should include my best friend. He was a conservative Southern Baptist, very angry when I announced I had turned to atheism, though he was fine with me as a deist. LOL, I corrupted that fucker. Now he’s an atheist, liberal, and supports gay rights. But again, he’s an exception. His best traits are that he’s intelligent, way more so than I, and best yet, he can admit he’s wrong and is willing to examine his beliefs. Exceptions proving rules and whatnot.
My sister-in-law’s step dad and grandfather are both preachers with doctorates in theology. I can talk religion with them all day, and we all can recognize the issues with modern Christians. The people who actually understand the Bible are generally great people in my experience.
They aren’t the issue. It’s the people who use it as a tool/weapon who are the issue. They don’t care what it says, nor do they even know what it says usually. They might know a handful of passages that can be mangled to fit their hateful ideology, but it doesn’t really matter as long as they fell righteous.
Oooo, can you give us a list of your 12 questions? Or a bunch of them?
LOL, no list. I just grew up in a white-bread Presbyterian church, know the Bible well enough to argue, if not exact chapter and verse.
Dang, I was hoping you could give us some good ammo.
No. They wait for people on TV/Facebook to tell them what it says.
Read?
Very likely not. It’s not an easy book to get through. Even the most devout will usually tap out at the begats.
If they had, they’d know there was a 13th disciple named Matthias. I’m not even kidding, it’s in the Book of Acts. He was selected to replace Judas, and is described as having been with them since the beginning.
Hear me out in this one, if by disciple they mean Peter who cut off a Romans ear, or Judas who sold out Jesus, or Thomas who doubted Jesus return, then yeah I get it.
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Why the fuck are they riding this dead dick so hard? He was a horrible debater, held repulsive beliefs even to some people on the right, and wasn’t even really that popular. He was a laughing stock to the majority of people and a perfect poster child for ignorant racist idiots the world over. Like, if you’re going to martyr someone, pick someone who stands up to scrutiny.
This is why the fascists are winning. They know how to play the propaganda game. Libs would have shit bricks if we tried to politicize the murder and attempted murder of the Minnesota state lawmakers.
We’re beyond playing fair and taking the high road, Democrats still playing the game from a decade past. And fucking losing.
They know how to play the propaganda game.
This isn’t a propaganda win. Its simply a pretext for what they wanted and had the power to do anyway. Propaganda win would be if there was universal popular support for Kirk, and there wasn’t before and simply isn’t now. Most people didn’t even know who Kirk was before this.
I really wish they’d show more clips of him. Maybe people unfamiliar with him with a couple of brain cells to rub together might realise ‘wait, we’re deifying that idiot?’
And your point? Of course they needed a pretext and this turned out to fit the bill. Roll the propaganda machine!
And your point?
I guess I thought my point was clear in my first sentence. “This isn’t a propaganda win.”
Of course they needed a pretext and this turned out to fit the bill.
They don’t need a pretext either. They’ve already enacted draconian policies against monitory groups based upon race and against LGBTQ folks. They needed no rational pretext for those. They didn’t need one for any other horrible things they’re going to do in the future. They would do those things anyway.
Social effect, easy martyr. Fascism loves this.
they seem to be doubling down the fact the shooter was even further right than he is, the gop ,trump and MSM cant afford to alienate the right by blaming a right winger. its simple they cant blame thier own people. so they have make something up like tying obscure reference of the shooter associating with the “trans” people.
If the beliefs held up to scrutiny they wouldn’t be associated with the modern Republican party
touche’
Well he did a good job of upholding his PR for those who are dumb enough to believe it because he deceptively edited his videos for them.
Charlie Kirk totally PWNS 25 stupid crybaby liberal students
They are using his strong religious beliefs as a lighting rod. If you slam Charlie Kirk, you’re basically slamming Christianity. It is easily used as a weapon.
What Christianity? Americans are not Christians they’re some weird capitalists me me me version of religion.
oh that’s pretty easy. i’m against genocide.
Apparently that’s what they respect. Make of that what you will.
Some dead people become martyrs and that has happened here.
That dumb fucking shooter.
Much like Judas.
Come on, a Palestinian man preaching love and compassion ? The whole lot of them would call him a communist terrorist…
If Jesus came back and came to America, he would be shot within 10 minutes of opening his mouth and 100 years later a new religion would be started with a Glock as it’s symbol.
Who says their God hasn’t already tried to come back dozens of times but he keeps getting bombed because he’s middle eastern
What if the Messiah is like the avatar cycle and every generation the Messiah comes back to teach the world shit.
No, he would have just replaced Judas
Judas at least showed some remorse.
Charlie “Tiny Face” Kirk would collect his silver and be smug about it.
Get out of here with your religious nonsense.
Disciple? No. Maybe Saul’s partner in crime before Saul became Paul.
Judas 2: Electric Bugaloo
Republicans pretending to be “Christians” never ceases to amuse
He wouldn’t have needed 30 pieces of silver.
What a dumbass thing to say.
LOL wut? It’s the perfect thing to say. They’re playing this for all the propaganda they can squeeze. Meanwhile, liberals be like, “But this is obvious bullshit!”
They’ve created a perfect “us vs. them” litmus test. If I wore a “Charlie Kirk: Single shot through the engine block!” T-shirt in my little hick town, I would be challenged, escalating to threat. And it would end with someone getting shot.
We’re playing fair while they cheat their ass off, in front of god and everyone. Calling out the hypocrisy is useless. We need propaganda of our own. Problem is, people like me, and presumably you, have a hard time lying for social or economic gain.
Well if we’re doing that then:
George Floyd died for our sins thus he was Christ reborn!!!
…I mean, Judas was a disciple too if you believe in that kind of thing. Not high praise or anything.
Yep, and Lucifer an angel.
i like the line of thought that judas was commanded to betray joshie boy, because he was the most diligent and faithful of the apostles.
Preferably the one that had nails driven through his body and was left hanging on the upside down cross.
St. Peter’s cross?
