“Free elections” where only the richest can influence the result? No, that farce does not exist in socialism.
When bootlickers like you see real democracy you call it “populism”. When you see oligarchy, you lie and call it “democracy”. Liberals hate democracy.
Imperial loot is ill-gotten goods through extortion, slavery, piracy, genocide, oppression, wage theft, and other crimes. It gets huckstered off for cheap to subjects like you so they will reliably defend neocolonialism.
“Voted your way to progress”? Workers have striked their way to progress. Your voting didn’t. Except maybe you consider genocide “progress”? In that case, you successfully voted your way to genocide. Enjoy your collapsing empire, white supremacist.
Holy shit, the villification. Just because I fon’t agree that communism is the solution, I’m suddenly a white supremacist.
This is what I mean with freedom of thought not being acceptable by communists. Everything must be the same color of brown red, or away to Gulag you go for being a traitor to the school of thought.
Such a nice little community you’ve got going here.
Hey, how is Sweden doing? Right, worker’s rights are in free-fall, the “socialist” welfare is getting torn to shreds, healthcare getting dismantled and more expensive. And just as capitalism starts to retract, fascism starts to go into rise, and pretty fast too!
And how did Europe initially get stronger worker protections than even china? By voting in Democratic Socialists who made coalitions with social democrats and Christian centrists. No revolution no autocrat.
Sadly the gains and welfare improvements moved enough boomers into retirement growth mentality. The trigger for capital to centralise and maintain through media ownership further increased by the smartphone.
Not quite accurate. Those protections were concessions given to blunt the momentum of the Soviets and to keep the homebase of Europeans happy while they looted the global south. Effectively paying a slight portion of the loot to pacify possible unrest. In effect the autocracy was there simply offshored onto the global south, now that the global south is liberating itself and the contradictions of capital are heightening the autocracy is returning home to Europe as the bourgeoisie needs to tighten the belt at home to make up for it.
I’m responding to European countries initial worker protections that you mentioned. These weren’t received from voting but given as concessions in the face of the socialist block to keep stability at home for a tiny fraction of the imperial and colonial loot.
“Comité van Actie tegen het Arbeidscontract” tot stand waarvan de SDAP, ANWV en NVV deel uitmaken. Samen met de SDAP heeft deze commissie invloed kunnen uitoefenen op de uiteindelijke wet die in 1907 werd aangenomen en in 1909 inging. De cao had vanaf dat moment een wettelijke basis.
SDAP (Sociaal Democratische Arbeiders Partij) is the old PVDA and the ANWV and NVV are workers unions.
You’re really not engaging with what I’m saying. I’m not saying it was ml parties within the country but that the momentum of the socialist block and risk of spreading worker resentment and solidarity forced the ruling class in Europe and America into providing some basic concessions to workers at home in the form of welfare benefits etc alongside a healthy dose of McCarthyism such that the home situation would remain stable and extraction from the global south could continue. Then once the Socialist block hit the major setback of the Soviet collapse they began repealing said benefits as is plainly seen right through to the modern day.
Holy shit, the villification. Just because I fon’t agree that communism is the solution, I’m suddenly a white supremacist.
You are saying that the organisations that fought against colonialism are/were bad, while the colonial metropoles are/were good.
You are very obviously a white supremacist.
Everything must be the same color of brown red, or away to Gulag you
So, imprisoning fascists is bad, but literal private prisons where non-white people end up in for being of a “wrong” race is fine by you.
I am saying none of those things. You are reading things into my answers that simply aren’t there. Read it again but please turn on your intellect first.
“Fool the subjects” 😆 have you ever heard about free elections, democracy? We have voted our way to progress. Which communist country have ever had a fair, truly free election? And what is even imperial slavery loot in this context?
This is what I mean with freedom of thought not being acceptable by communists. Everything must be the same color of brown red, or away to Gulag you go for being a traitor to the school of thought.
I guess it could be called “somethi g in between”, with tax funded healthcare+education, but still entrepreneurship that comes with the “capitalist” view of liberty/freedom to express your ideas even though the govt doesnt like it (famously illegal in communist states).
It’s pretty obvious that you are doing the “those evil communist banned speech, unlike my great empire (that has a history of brutally repressing non-Europeans, but I am fine with that)” bit.
“Free elections” where only the richest can influence the result? No, that farce does not exist in socialism.
When bootlickers like you see real democracy you call it “populism”. When you see oligarchy, you lie and call it “democracy”. Liberals hate democracy.
Imperial loot is ill-gotten goods through extortion, slavery, piracy, genocide, oppression, wage theft, and other crimes. It gets huckstered off for cheap to subjects like you so they will reliably defend neocolonialism.
“Voted your way to progress”? Workers have striked their way to progress. Your voting didn’t. Except maybe you consider genocide “progress”? In that case, you successfully voted your way to genocide. Enjoy your collapsing empire, white supremacist.
Holy shit, the villification. Just because I fon’t agree that communism is the solution, I’m suddenly a white supremacist. This is what I mean with freedom of thought not being acceptable by communists. Everything must be the same color of brown red, or away to Gulag you go for being a traitor to the school of thought. Such a nice little community you’ve got going here.
Hey, how is Sweden doing? Right, worker’s rights are in free-fall, the “socialist” welfare is getting torn to shreds, healthcare getting dismantled and more expensive. And just as capitalism starts to retract, fascism starts to go into rise, and pretty fast too!
And how did Europe initially get stronger worker protections than even china? By voting in Democratic Socialists who made coalitions with social democrats and Christian centrists. No revolution no autocrat.
Sadly the gains and welfare improvements moved enough boomers into retirement growth mentality. The trigger for capital to centralise and maintain through media ownership further increased by the smartphone.
Not quite accurate. Those protections were concessions given to blunt the momentum of the Soviets and to keep the homebase of Europeans happy while they looted the global south. Effectively paying a slight portion of the loot to pacify possible unrest. In effect the autocracy was there simply offshored onto the global south, now that the global south is liberating itself and the contradictions of capital are heightening the autocracy is returning home to Europe as the bourgeoisie needs to tighten the belt at home to make up for it.
What Soviet’s? I’m talking about 00s. I can only speak for my country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Dutch_general_election
I’m responding to European countries initial worker protections that you mentioned. These weren’t received from voting but given as concessions in the face of the socialist block to keep stability at home for a tiny fraction of the imperial and colonial loot.
Cool let’s have a look:
SDAP (Sociaal Democratische Arbeiders Partij) is the old PVDA and the ANWV and NVV are workers unions.
https://vakbondshistorie.nl/dossiers/de-geschiedenis-van-de-cao/
The ruling party did not contain any ML in fact the pressure come from Christian unions not ussr socialists.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweede_Kamerverkiezingen_1909
You’re really not engaging with what I’m saying. I’m not saying it was ml parties within the country but that the momentum of the socialist block and risk of spreading worker resentment and solidarity forced the ruling class in Europe and America into providing some basic concessions to workers at home in the form of welfare benefits etc alongside a healthy dose of McCarthyism such that the home situation would remain stable and extraction from the global south could continue. Then once the Socialist block hit the major setback of the Soviet collapse they began repealing said benefits as is plainly seen right through to the modern day.
You are saying that the organisations that fought against colonialism are/were bad, while the colonial metropoles are/were good.
You are very obviously a white supremacist.
So, imprisoning fascists is bad, but literal private prisons where non-white people end up in for being of a “wrong” race is fine by you.
I am saying none of those things. You are reading things into my answers that simply aren’t there. Read it again but please turn on your intellect first.
Were you not the one who said the following?
It’s pretty obvious that you are doing the “those evil communist banned speech, unlike my great empire (that has a history of brutally repressing non-Europeans, but I am fine with that)” bit.