The U.S. military has launched several waves of strikes on Iran over Tehran's attack on a container ship in the Strait of Hormuz that set it ablaze and left a crew member missing earlier in the weekend.
Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis all fire rockets at civilian population centers in Israel. Counter-attacking them can be considered Israel defending themselves.
Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan and Oman have not fired rockets (or weapons of any kind) at Iran. Counter-attacking the US and Israel would be defending themselves. What Iran is doing by not limiting themselves to counter attacking those attacking them is creating terror in the region. They’re being terrorists.
My behaviour is judged by the laws of the country I live in.
The behaviour of countries is judged by international law.
When the USA and Israel launched this war of choice, they stepped outside international law.
In the absence of credibly enforced international law, the only thing we have to go by is historical precedent.
Historical precedent says that junior allies being attacked in retaliation for the acts of their senior allies is extremely commonplace. So Iran is not being “terroristic” in any kind of historically exceptional way. We don’t talk about Napoleon being a “terrorist” for invading Portugal in 1807 to get at the UK. The Iranians are fighting a war the same way wars have been fought since Hannibal laid siege to Saguntum. Retaliatory attacks against offshored military facilities and materially participating coalition partners are just a recurring feature of warfare. To be clear: I’m not justifying Iran here, I’m de-exceptionalizing their conduct of warfare.
If somehow enforcement of international law were to be re-instated, and I absolutely would want that to be the case, then Iran’s war crimes (such as any targeting of civilians) should be judged by a competent tribunal. Of course, it should be judged with exactly the same severity as the ones of the USA and Israel (who actually started this war in the first place) by the same tribunal.
If you actually care about civilian casualties, and you’re not just being a campist for the US/Israel, you should be condemning the entire illegal war to begin with. Without US/Israeli adventurism, none of this would have happened. Are you anti-war? Or just anti-Iran?
Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis all fire rockets at civilian population centers in Israel. Counter-attacking them can be considered Israel defending themselves.
Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan and Oman have not fired rockets (or weapons of any kind) at Iran. Counter-attacking the US and Israel would be defending themselves. What Iran is doing by not limiting themselves to counter attacking those attacking them is creating terror in the region. They’re being terrorists.
So your whole argument is about labelling this or that side “terrorist”? This is about moralizing an illegal war? Cry me a fucking river.
Do you think if someone commits a crime against you, you are entitled to commit crimes against any bystander you feel like?
That’s what Iran is doing, committing crimes against the peoples of Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan and Oman.
My behaviour is judged by the laws of the country I live in.
The behaviour of countries is judged by international law.
When the USA and Israel launched this war of choice, they stepped outside international law.
In the absence of credibly enforced international law, the only thing we have to go by is historical precedent.
Historical precedent says that junior allies being attacked in retaliation for the acts of their senior allies is extremely commonplace. So Iran is not being “terroristic” in any kind of historically exceptional way. We don’t talk about Napoleon being a “terrorist” for invading Portugal in 1807 to get at the UK. The Iranians are fighting a war the same way wars have been fought since Hannibal laid siege to Saguntum. Retaliatory attacks against offshored military facilities and materially participating coalition partners are just a recurring feature of warfare. To be clear: I’m not justifying Iran here, I’m de-exceptionalizing their conduct of warfare.
If somehow enforcement of international law were to be re-instated, and I absolutely would want that to be the case, then Iran’s war crimes (such as any targeting of civilians) should be judged by a competent tribunal. Of course, it should be judged with exactly the same severity as the ones of the USA and Israel (who actually started this war in the first place) by the same tribunal.
If you actually care about civilian casualties, and you’re not just being a campist for the US/Israel, you should be condemning the entire illegal war to begin with. Without US/Israeli adventurism, none of this would have happened. Are you anti-war? Or just anti-Iran?
Space cowboy is a neo liberal Zionist through and through. They will use all manner of cognitive dissonance and logical fallacies available.
Also worth knowing that Iran hit US military targets in the neighboring countries and didn’t just “lash out” at them.