Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    The communist party is run by the working classes and derives its power from popular support. The people oppressed by communist parties were overwhelmingly fascists, landlords, and capitalists.

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      Out right lies. The communist parties (the ones that have existed, not the the theoretical ones) derive their power from threat of violence against workers. They’re a non-hereditary nobility that oppress workers (except North Korea which is now a hereditary monarchy).

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        Incorrect, on all counts. Communist parties derive their power from popular support from the working classes, as they themselves are working class. State violence is used against fascists, sabateurs, capitalists, and landlords. If they truly were a nobility concerned only with oppressing workers, then you have to prove why there was such dramatic improvements in social welfare, poverty eradication, key life metrics, studied Marxism and taught it in universities, and more. Certainly these would have been of no importance to a new ruling class?

        You’re dramatically incorrect here.

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      Communists are rich people who are privileged enough to not work and spend all day larping. They dont know working class people they’ve never met any.

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        I’m a communist and that’s false for me and every communist I know IRL that I work with, and is also false on an international scale. Communist parties are working class parties.

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          Most of my friends are some flavor of Anarchist or Socialist. Of the two outright Commies that I’ve known (who described themselves as such) one was a man of the people and the other was a lazy spoiled phony who’s communism expressed itself mainly as sharing memes on facebook.

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          Communists love to wear working class struggle as a disguise. They aren’t working class and once they get power they use and abuse them just like every other rich cunt.

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            This is nonsense. Communists seek collectivization of production and distribution to satisfy the needs of all, and when communists take power the first things they do is implement measures like land reform, literacy campaigns, and expropriate property from landlords and capitalists to better serve the interests of the people.

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              First thing they do is strip rights away from people. Second thing they do is start erasing history. Third is increasing police forces to crack down on any dissent.

              Communists serve the communist party not the people.

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                Again, untrue. In Russia, for example, life expectancies doubled, literacy rates went from 20-30% to full literacy, working hours dropped while real wages rose, healthcare and education were free and high quality, the economy was democratized and the country went from a feudal backward to space in less than a century, beating the Nazis along the way.

                They dramatically expand rights, teach history, and cracked down on the fascists, capitalists, and landlords.

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              That problem is that not all communists were made equal. I’ve heard plenty of communists talk that I can respect but MLs aren’t the ones. Bolsheviks always managed to get their needs especially met and before anyone elses needs.

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                Marxism-Leninism is the only branch of communism that has actually successfully implemented socialism. I’m not sure what communists you spoke with that you can respect if you don’t respect any that have actually succeeded. The point about MLs ensuring their needs are met before anyone elses is just nonsense considering everywhere socialism has been implemented by MLs has come with dramatic improvements in the lives of the working classes.